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All the more reason to stay in the market

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Then the companies can pay them for mopping floors and stacking shelves instead of the Government threatening to withdraw benefits if they don't. They should at least topped up to the equivalent minimum wage.

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Which will, of course, result in loss of benefit. ;)

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only if the amount is above the few grand you are allowed.

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LOL
They can put a fresh claim in when they've spent it all :)

No doubt Dave is fuming!

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All they would be entitled to is stopped benefits .If they are entitled to be payed the going rate for the work they did it, would result in their claim stopping as they would be classed as earnings ,which is of course why the companies involved in the schemes where not allowed to pay them in the first place

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and here we have another issue. The red tape. When someone gets a job that is temporary it should be a much simpler process to get back onto JSA once the job is over. The red tape is ridicules and it does put people off taking temp jobs

And they should have made a simple way of letting they get paid and go back onto benefits after without hassle

They will be entitled to back pay yes but what if there is found to be a civil case to answer. The courts have just found that what the government done was illegal so the very policy by definition is a criminal offence victims of said offences may well have a civil compensation claim.

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They wouldn't be classed as 'earning' they're not there.
it will be classed as a windfall. and it's highly unlikely to be more than the allowed limit where they are not entitled to receive any benefits.

it's just who is liable to pay. the companies or the government.
but they can argue about that amongst themselves.

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About time they put a stop to this nonsense.

They've been running these for years through a company named BTCV. Up here they had strong contacts with B&Q and various factories, They'd bring the unemployed through the door, assess their qualifications and if they were already trained for the work they were after they'd send them out to B&Q or similar for the 13 week duration. This meant they had numerous unpaid workers at companies all year round for 13 week stints at a time.

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there were those left to sleep under the bridge with the Olympics also iirc

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Why is this being called 'unpaid work' and 'slavery' since in return for the work these people were given dole money? :confused:

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I think that was a blatant abuse of the system by G4S ,a different thing altogether

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Because some people think they should get free money from tax payers with little or no obligation to the people who give it them

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Why do you have something called a minimum wage...

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Because John on the dole was getting £71 a week. and Billy the official employee was getting £300 a week.

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They had the dole money. They were forced onto these schemes with the threat of losing it if they refuse . Ergo they were not being paid to work they were forced to work or be sanction there was no wage