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Hugh 14-01-2013 16:30

Re: Retentions deals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35522857)
Why? Less customers= less money for the pay rise you were after and possible redundancy.



Indeed.



I'm beginning to think that myself. The attitude of a minority of VM staff on here is beginning to make me question why I should continue to help pay their wages through multiple personal and business contracts.

I have a special number to ring for negotiating and am normally very happy with what i'm offered, but my loyalty is now beginning to be severely tested.

Turnover is vanity, profit is sanity - a business cannot survive on customers it does not make any money from.

Mr K 14-01-2013 19:00

Re: Retentions deals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35522862)
A second level to reward continued loyalty as a customer, say £2 for two years, £5 for five years and £10 for ten years.

Be nice if it worked that way but the opposite tends to be true. The longer you've been a customer, and the nicer non-quibbling person you are, the higher price you're likely to be paying. I've been a cable customer since 1996, dread to think what I'd be paying now if I'd never challenged the price. I only do this when I can see I paying more than new customers (after taking into account any first few months initial discount).

Loyal customers are often the last in line when it comes to equipment upgrades aswell. Doubtless I'd still be stuck with my Jerrold (circa 1996) tv box, which you could fry an egg on, if I'd never rung up and queried it, and be paying more a new customer with 3 Tivo's and a Superdud....

Realise VM need to attract new customers, but taking advantage of loyal ones, plus a couple of inflation busting price rises in the same year, is taking a massive risk on on where most of their profits are coming from. Just give long serving punters a fair deal that isn't worse than new customers after their 3 month (or whatever) discount. This would help retention long term and end the 'retentions' call farce.

Qtx 14-01-2013 21:54

Re: Retentions deals
 
Think we can all agree that loyalty should be rewarded but it won't change until the majority of people are happy to switch providers on a regular basis, forcing providers to change their way of thinking.

Hugh 15-01-2013 09:43

Re: Retentions deals
 
I have to agree with you - I never understand why people don't review their utilities/service providers (including insurances) annually. Even with the same provider, often the online quote for a new customer is cheaper than the renewal they send.

Chad 19-01-2013 17:42

Re: Retentions deals
 
When I received notification of my price increase last month from Virgin, I called them to fully explain the cancellation process to me. I explained I wasn't happy with the increase and would see what deals I could find elsewhere. The lady from Virgin offered me a small rebate on my package however I explained I'm not trying to negotiate, I'm just looking for more info. I advised I would call back within 48 hours if I intended to cancel.

Once I sorted out my move to SKY I called Virgin to go ahead with my cancellation and explained I had found a better deal elsewhere. I was told whilst the woman I had spoken with 2 days earlier had offered me a rebate a further reduction could be offered if I stayed and entered into a new 12 month deal. I refused and joined SKY.

I have realised there is not much value in loyalty. Who wants to pay full price when you can pay half price? I'm on half price for 12 months with SKY. Say at the end of 12 months Virgin/BT are offering 18 month contracts but the first 6 months are half price, I'll probably leave SKY to take advantage of this offer. If however a few months later SKY offer me either the 75% or 50% "comeback to us rebate" then I'd wait until the next package price increase from Virgin/BT,refuse to accept the price increase, and cancel my services by giving 30 days notification.

It's great that you can cancel your contact if you are in term, when prices are increased, as it opens up your options. As long as you don't mind changing providers once a year you could easily get yourself half price deals, or heavily discounted introduction rates, over the next 12 to 24 months at least. As I stand just now I can realistically save myself over £1000.00 in subscription fees over the next 18 months. Based on the package I was on recently with Virgin, that's like having all of my services free for almost 10 months.

With BT arriving on the scene it makes things even better for consumers. If you stick with one provider for years and years you won't get value for your money.

Hugh 19-01-2013 18:43

Re: Retentions deals
 
To quote the great philosopher Punch - "That's the way to do it!"

Mick Fisher 19-01-2013 20:14

Re: Retentions deals
 
Saving a few pennies is nice but I think the quality and reliability of services is more important.

My services with VM have always been plagued by quality and reliability issues :(

In actual fact I really don't mind paying a little extra if the services are worth it.

However services from my current provider are, so far, proving to be rock solid and are working out to be cheaper which is a nice bonus :)

Firmsky 24-04-2013 20:54

Re: Retentions deals
 
Sorry for dragging up and old thread but wanted to see what people think of my current offering...

Your package
Bundle Charges Total
Talk Weekends TV Size: X L 1 Additional V Box TiVo Monthly Fee Broadband XXL (Up To 100mb) Premiere Collection
Bundle Charges Total total£60.50
Promotional offer(s)
£5 Off For 12 Month Campaign On Your Collection Pack Which Will End On 27-SEP-13
Promotional offer(s)CR £5.00
Phone line rental
Line Rental
12 Month Line Rental Saver - Payment Made In Advance For Line Rental Until 02-JAN-14
Phone line rental total£0.00
Your package total£55.50

My services if you can not make the above out are... (Pretty sure its the Premier package with 100Meg but a reduction of the 2nd TiVo fee)

XL TV with 2 TiVo boxes
100Mbps
M Phone

My contract is up on the 1st June 2013 so I am just trying to review if I can negotiate a better deal with VM? I don't mind signing a further contract as I have paid line rental till Jan 2014 anyhow so if I did leave I would ultimately lose that. I'm happy with the VM service I receive just want to make sure I am paying the average for a loyal customer.

Thanks for any advice you can offer.


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