Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

Gets my vote :D

Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

Or a couple lof mountain sheep to sheer. :D

Anyway I thought that's what Australia is for... :)

Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

Got no money.
got money to build a new big prison.
(save 63 million pound a year) peanuts.

got more money to extend existing prisons to house an extra 1,260 prisoners.

are we expecting a mass law breaking spree or something?

Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

Probably :D

Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

Hugh will tell you I'm right again.
I said this would happen :)

they're on the news talking about it as if it's a matter of urgency. and they say they'll be saving 63 million pounds a year (nobody has asked them how much it's going to cost to build and when will we see a return on our investment)

then they go and tell us that they're making more room as well as the new super prison to tell the courts that there's plenty of room so keep sending them.
(Super prison. in Britain. you never thought you'd hear them 2 words together did you)

it's all scary how nobody can see what's going on. only me :D

Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

You remember that other scam called "care in the community" that's led to God knows how many innocent bystanders being stabbed and assaulted over the years, well if they can keep saving money by closing prisons we might have "incarcerated in the community" along with the associated rise in muggings and burglaries for all those unlucky enough not to live in Secure Mansions or gated communities. :D

Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

If there's one think that needs investment and modernising in this country it's our prisons.

All the old Victorian installations, which is most of them, need bulldozing.

I'd of thought that a new modern facility would be welcomed.

Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

I agree ,it's a government project that will employ a good few people and doesn't cost an arm and a leg

Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

This is becoming a Daily Fail type thread. Surely it makes sense to decommission older prisons & replace them with newer ones which have better conditions for inmates & better training facilities to help prevent them from re-offending? Admittedly some inmates would be farther from their families, but it's a balance?

Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

My God. we're worrying about prisoners living in old buildings and their living conditions.

I'd be ok about giving them a brand new building to cheer them up a bit. as long as they triple their pocket money and allow them a new iphone and £20 worth of free credit every week.
(it has to roll over as well so they don't feel cheated)

Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

It's also about the cost of maintaining these older prisons...

Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

£63 million pounds a year. which is absolutely nothing in savings compared to what other savings they're making elsewhere.

they just need more prison space to cope for what's coming. that's all.

Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

Prisoners cost us enough as it is why should we compound that by constantly forking out good money on ramshackle old buildings and pointless maintenance.
My only problem with this is that it is a government project ,it will be overcosted ,it will overrun on time and cost twice as much as originally quoted apart from that i'm good with it

Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

...and the civil servants responsible for the inevitable failures will be severely punished by getting moved to another department... :rolleyes:

Re: Government deal with overcrowding in prisons. By closing prisons.
 

This is why we need new prisons ,must keep the little princesses happy musn't we .

Writing about conditions in Durham prison a prisoner says

It's not a bloody hotel

then try staying out of prison



Trouble is they cannot force the inmates to clean ,they are "encouraged"

Makes me want to puke