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Chris 28-12-2012 17:24

Re: Doesn't go far enough
 
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35516894)
What the government have to do is to find funding to get youths and young adults off our streets.

Where should this funding come from Arthur?

Is it perhaps

A) By cutting funding from other projects

Or maybe

B) By raising taxes

Then again, it could be

C) The magic money tree

Go on, tie yourself in knots, I could do with a laugh.

martyh 28-12-2012 17:32

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35517228)
Where should this funding come from Arthur?

Is it perhaps

A) By cutting funding from other projects

Or maybe

B) By raising taxes

Then again, it could be

C) The magic money tree

Go on, tie yourself in knots, I could do with a laugh.

Well to start with the politicians can stop having such big lunches .....Harumph :)

Hom3r 28-12-2012 18:19

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My parents never raised a finger to me or my sister, and we have never been in trouble with the law, as we were raised to respect others

Arthurgray50@blu 28-12-2012 21:09

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The funding can come from, all the savings from budget cuts that they have made.

The government must realise that to put this project into place, its not a question of throwing so many thousands of pounds into it, to stop this happening they must place a funding that can put more coppers on the beat, its that simple.

This government waste millions of pounds on silly things, such as MPs luxuries, cut there expenses, where an MP put in an expense claim for buying a newspaper.

Its no good putting money into such a big issue and expect people to change overnight as this won't happen.

I know that l keep going on about putting more bobbies on the streets, but by 2015 there will be LESS pc's on the street due to cutbacks.

martyh 28-12-2012 21:31

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35517337)
The funding can come from, all the savings from budget cuts that they have made.
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That's just backwards logic Arthur ,if they do that what about the rising debt ,how do we pay that off?

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The government must realise that to put this project into place, its not a question of throwing so many thousands of pounds into it, to stop this happening they must place a funding that can put more coppers on the beat, its that simple
.

Already done that ,didn't work .....next

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This government waste millions of pounds on silly things, such as MPs luxuries, cut there expenses, where an MP put in an expense claim for buying a newspaper.
Told you he would say that Chris :D

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I know that l keep going on about putting more bobbies on the streets, but by 2015 there will be LESS pc's on the street due to cutbacks
So that means that parents are going to have to bring their little scroats up properly doesn't it

Hugh 28-12-2012 22:06

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More police needed to reduce youth crime?

With the upcoming reductions in police numbers, in 2015 we will be back to the number of police we had in 2006 - I don't remember widespread anarchy around then.....

martyh 28-12-2012 22:09

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35517361)
More police needed to reduce youth crime?

With the upcoming reductions in police numbers, in 2015 we will be back to the number of police we had in 2006 - I don't remember widespread anarchy around then.....

New years resolution for Hugh ,

stop introducing facts into Arthurs threads ,it spoils the fun

idiosyncratic 28-12-2012 22:56

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I was interested to read this article

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...pils-told.html

I don't think every school leaver should expect to be a lawyer, but with the forthcoming extension of education to age 18, it might be encouraging for many students to think a more realistic entry to decent jobs may be available, without thinking they have to amass a huge debt by going to Uni.

In my opinion, money spent giving young people hope that they may have a future, is far better than spending it on police forces to contain the frustration the youth currently feel because they think it isn't worth bothering...

Sirius 29-12-2012 00:06

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Originally Posted by Will21st (Post 35516929)
:clap:

Seconded

martyh 29-12-2012 08:50

Re: Doesn't go far enough
 
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Originally Posted by idiosyncratic (Post 35517390)
I was interested to read this article

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...pils-told.html

I don't think every school leaver should expect to be a lawyer, but with the forthcoming extension of education to age 18, it might be encouraging for many students to think a more realistic entry to decent jobs may be available, without thinking they have to amass a huge debt by going to Uni.
.

It's something I and others on this forum have advocated for a while now .In my opinion apprenticeships and lots of them in a wide range of skills is what is needed and i think they teach a much better and wider ranging skill set than a degree .

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In my opinion, money spent giving young people hope that they may have a future, is far better than spending it on police forces to contain the frustration the youth currently feel because they think it isn't worth bothering


Couldn't have put it better myself

Escapee 29-12-2012 11:46

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35517449)
It's something I and others on this forum have advocated for a while now .In my opinion apprenticeships and lots of them in a wide range of skills is what is needed and i think they teach a much better and wider ranging skill set than a degree .



Couldn't have put it better myself

I agree with this`as well, I have had a few graduates placed with me, it's usually on at a time but I have had two at a time and although the majority have been very good, some have been not so good.

The difference is not what score they gained when they graduated it's just as much about the practical ability they have to go with it. One in particular had a first class honors degree in electronics, and he really didn't know the basics or have any idea how to apply what he had learned but he did 'know it all'. On the other hand one had a first class degree in a different subject and through his interest in electronics he was much better than the one with the electronics degree.

I believe a balance of academic study and practical experience produces the most valuable employee.

Chris 29-12-2012 12:16

Re: Doesn't go far enough
 
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35517337)
The funding can come from, all the savings from budget cuts that they have made.

the savings are being made in order to bring national debt under control. Without those savings, the amount of money the country owes will continue to rise.

The country already owes more than ONE TRILLION POUNDS. Exactly how much bigger do you think that number should be allowed to get before this country begins spending within its means?

Taf 29-12-2012 14:27

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35517206)
What l would do is this:
Or put them in the armed services.

Oh dear god no! I had the misfortune to be obliged to serve with Y.O.P. and Y.E.T.I. 16 and 17 year olds who were given the option "RAF or Prison".

All but one were the biggest waste of food and oxygen I had ever met. No respect for anyone, no respect for their uniform, no respect for the Service.

And they just refused to accept any punishment dished out to them, and often didn't even bother turning up for duty. One, I'm sure, was constantly drunk, despite being underage.

Even the "Rock Apes (RAF Regiment) couldn't do anything with them!

Hugh 29-12-2012 15:29

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What Taf said....

Chrysalis 30-12-2012 06:59

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35516901)
With respect arthur that is all a load of rollocks ,if people offend that is their fault if they re-offend that is their fault not the governments .Being bored or out of work does not give a person the right to rob, steal,smash or terrorize

Yes but they are more likely to do it when unopposed and no repurcussions.

I think you have too much faith in individuals, there is a lack of law enforcement presence on the streets.

---------- Post added at 07:59 ---------- Previous post was at 07:57 ----------

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35517500)
the savings are being made in order to bring national debt under control. Without those savings, the amount of money the country owes will continue to rise.

The country already owes more than ONE TRILLION POUNDS. Exactly how much bigger do you think that number should be allowed to get before this country begins spending within its means?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/rame...b_2007552.html


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