Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

Three questions....

Do the parents' rights to religious expression trump the rights of a child against "mutilation"

Could the procedure not be carried out after the age of 18 when the person can make informed choice?

If this is an act carried out by God fearing people, then why did God give boys a foreskin in the first place? :confused:

Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

I don't disagree with what you say and don't want this to turn into another cultural/relgious warfare thread ;)

My concern is not about slurring one religion or another and it's less about the thousands of boys who are treated with due care during this procedure than it is about rooting out the proportion who go about things in a thoroughly barbaric manner which I would consider as child abuse. It's also about the young girls who are subject to circumcision and genital mutilation which I feel cannot ever be justified.

That it's still going on in this country at all, should be a very grave concern for all of us irrespective of race/religion or indeed percentages.

Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

Small point of order chaps ,Circumcision is NOT routinely free on the NHS unless for a medical condition

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Circumc...roduction.aspx


circumcision for religious purposes is wrong ,it is unnecessary, barbaric and has no place in a modern society .Parents who insist on having it done should save up a bit more and get it done at private hospitals or not at all

Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

It's a sticky area this, but the way I saw it expressed once kind of sums it up for me: If someone's gonna lop off a part of my dick, they'd better make sure they have my permission first.

I'm all for freedom of religious expression, but I think genital mutilation of children without their consent really is taking it a bit too far.

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Relatedly, and quite bizarre:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2...cision-ritual/

Right. So he wants to suck a baby's dick after cutting part of it off and cites religious reasons. You really couldn't make it up.

Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

That is quite horrendous!

How could anyone defend that? :confused:

Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

For the record: I only found that as I was wondering how common 'home circumcision' is. It's one of the top Google hits for 'circumcision' and 'rabbi'.

Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

Not sticky at all if it's done by a trained professional instead of a religiously motivated butcher

Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

look at the proportion. Look at how many Muslim and Jewish children born every month having this procedure done. and add that to the amount of children having it done who are not Muslim or Jewish.

how many of those 3 per month children have had it done in the incorrect environments like this child?

I for one got this done due to religious beliefs of my mother and im thankful for that.

Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

I disagree. In my book, it's a form of genital mutilation, which should not be performed without the victim's consent, unless there are compelling health reasons for performing the act at a young age.

Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

so you want them to get consent from new born child to cut his fore skin off? :D

Hows that gona work?

Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

I think the caveat "unless there are compelling health reasons" sort of covers that.

Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

It isn't :D

Which is why I would suggest they wait until the child is able to give his consent :angel:

Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

obviously the child is going to say no as they'll be scared and they don't understand the benefits of it being done...

Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

OH i agree ,just saying that if it must be allowed for religious reasons then it should be done by a trained professional not some knacker with a pair of scissors.

I want to know what the religious reasons are anyway

Re: Baby dies after home circumcision
 

Actually, I was thinking more like waiting until he's 18...