Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35496366)

Bloody hell, that letter reads like something from the 70's, the tech I know said they were letting the staff decide even though they could end it anyway as its a voluntary agreement from NTl days?

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35496430)

Also, the action that the CWU has taken regarding Albert Dock has seriously soured relations between the two parties. Unfortunately, VM are not happy bunnies at all, i've been expecting something like this.

Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35496437)

Once the is a high enough percentage they legally have to recognise trade unions so this is just a way they are hoping to get out of having to legally recognise unions, as above all this will do is enforce the need for union membership and will backfire on the company.

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Get real the company tried to close the Albert Dock in an underhand way not realising that they would be caught with their trousers down and will be punished for their high handedness in a few weeks time.

This is the real reason for the company desperately trying to undermine union membership before the unfavourable result comes out which will result in a sharp rise in new members of the CWU as they realise it is the way to go.

If anyone is stupid enough to believe anything this company says and decides to drop their membership then they will just be giving this company a remit to ride roughshod over any agreements already in place.

I and all my ex colleagues and CWU union members from the Albert Dock are awaiting the result of the tribunal with bated breath as the evidence against the company is overwhelming, a little bit of bad publicity for Virgin Media just before Christmas will be our perfect gift at that time.:):):)

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35496442)

I was talking to an engineer yesterday who felt that the vote is a smoke screen and that they will drop the recognition no matter what. He thinks VM have a reason for this vote that they are not talking about :(

Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35496437)

Once the is a high enough percentage they legally have to recognise trade unions so this is just a way they are hoping to get out of having to legally recognise unions, as above all this will do is enforce the need for union membership and will backfire on the company.

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Get real the company tried to close the Albert Dock in an underhand way not realising that they would be caught with their trousers down and will be punished for their high handedness in a few weeks time.

This is the real reason for the company desperately trying to undermine union membership before the unfavourable result comes out which will result in a sharp rise in new members of the CWU as they realise it is the way to go.

If anyone is stupid enough to believe anything this company says and decides to drop their membership then they will just be giving this company a remit to ride roughshod over any agreements already in place.

I and all my ex colleagues and CWU union members from the Albert Dock are awaiting the result of the tribunal with bated breath as the evidence against the company is overwhelming, a little bit of bad publicity for Virgin Media just before Christmas will be our perfect gift at that time.:):):)

Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35496437)

Once the is a high enough percentage they legally have to recognise trade unions so this is just a way they are hoping to get out of having to legally recognise unions, as above all this will do is enforce the need for union membership and will backfire on the company.

---------- Post added at 06:30 ---------- Previous post was at 06:23 ----------


Get real the company tried to close the Albert Dock in an underhand way not realising that they would be caught with their trousers down and will be punished for their high handedness in a few weeks time.

This is the real reason for the company desperately trying to undermine union membership before the unfavourable result comes out which will result in a sharp rise in new members of the CWU as they realise it is the way to go.

If anyone is stupid enough to believe anything this company says and decides to drop their membership then they will just be giving this company a remit to ride roughshod over any agreements already in place.

I and all my ex colleagues and CWU union members from the Albert Dock are awaiting the result of the tribunal with bated breath as the evidence against the company is overwhelming, a little bit of bad publicity for Virgin Media just before Christmas will be our perfect gift at that time.:):):)

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35496488)

Well we have a interesting few weeks ahead i feel. Cannot wait to see the out come of the vote.

Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35496475)

I might be being thick here but looking on google it suggests you worked for Adecco not VM ? My last comment on the subject as it appears very personal to you, would be - you are only hearing one side of the story and a court will hear both - good luck hope it works out the way you want

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35496625)

Anyway, do you believe that VM need to continue to recognise the CWU, even though you believe that they are an excellent employer?

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35496633)

Oh and the CWU aren't exactly saints themselves.

Originally Posted by damien c (Post 35496150)

How is this vote being conducted, is it via a independent company or are VM doing the counting of the vote ?

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35496638)

I feel the next few weeks are going to be interesting to say the least :LOL:

Oh and @RichardCoulter I have you on ignore and have no intention of ever replying to anymore of you posts so don't bother continuing to try and bait me as you will never get a reply in any form from this point onwards.

Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35496437)

Once the is a high enough percentage they legally have to recognise trade unions so this is just a way they are hoping to get out of having to legally recognise unions, as above all this will do is enforce the need for union membership and will backfire on the company.

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35496488)

Well we have a interesting few weeks ahead i feel. Cannot wait to see the out come of the vote.

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35496683)

we do live in interesting times- i also can't wait for the out come of this vote
and the heartbeat survey, it should be an entertaining time ahead :shocked:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35496633)

They aren't recognised in most of the company though - it only covers the Access division and then only in ex-Telewest areas (as the CWU letter says)

VM don't stop anyone joining the CWU if that's what they wish, but personally to me this is about treating all employees the same.

Whether or not the CWU should be recognised by the whole of VM is a different question

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Oh and the CWU aren't exactly saints themselves.

This:



is no way the full story about how pay is arrived at for those directly employed by VM

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35496694)

The 2012 Heartbeat survey is primarily concerned with finding out if financial incentives to staff, in particular the sharesave and performance-related pay schemes, are value for money.

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35496695)

exactly there is no negotiation its take it or work elsewhere :td:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35496683)

we do live in interesting times- i also can't wait for the out come of this vote
and the heartbeat survey, it should be an entertaining time ahead :shocked:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35496724)

Forgot about that, i filled it out accordingly ;)