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BenMcr 20-08-2012 13:11

Re: How unlimited is unlimited?
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35465371)
WHY then can we not see that data as well. ?????

For the current tools, I believe it's down to load. It's one thing to have an agent check the system when someone asks. It's a different thing to rollout that access to millions of customers and have it work reliably.

Sephiroth 20-08-2012 13:13

Re: How unlimited is unlimited?
 
Ben

There is a limit on what you can download each month. The first limit is your up to speed; the second limit, which is a cap, is the throttle.

Whilst the first limit is an obvious one, the second is a limitation imposed by VM that prevents you achieving the first. I'm not against that because it helps me. But the word "unlimted" has no semantic difference from "no limit".

I suspect that the OP may have bought his service when, in the midst of all the "Broadband Con" furore, VM were using the word "unlimited" (now "no limit").

Anyway, I think the OP has been thoroughly answered by now and for some it might just be grumble time!

carlwaring 20-08-2012 13:28

Re: How unlimited is unlimited?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35465355)
It seems I have to speak to Taf's and the OP's points again.

No you don't. The answers have clearly been given.

There is no cap on any of VM's cable broadband services.

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35465360)
I would expect VM [to] abide by ASA's guidelines on use of the term "Unlimited" ..

Which, of course, clearly they do.

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35465371)
What annoys me is that many times i and others have asked for the tools to be able to check what we have downloaded and we never get them...

I'm sure there are plenty available on the internet :) I'm sure if VM supplied one for its customers it would be derided for... I don't know... fudging the figures or something :D So just use an ISP-independant product.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35465374)
There is a limit on what you can download each month.

Erm... okay.

Quote:

The first limit is your up to speed; the second limit, which is a cap, is the throttle.
Of course the third limit is the number of days in a month :rolleyes:

Re BIB. WRONG! If you cap something it stops dead completely. None of VM's cable broadband services stop completely dead; ever.

danielf 20-08-2012 13:30

Re: How unlimited is unlimited?
 
Seems to me that, despite claims to the contrary, someone here has way too much time on his hands...

MalteseFalcon 20-08-2012 13:33

Re: How unlimited is unlimited?
 
Thanks for all the answers, wish I hadn't asked now.

So I can download as much as I want, within reason I think is the ultimate answer.

qasdfdsaq 20-08-2012 13:42

Re: How unlimited is unlimited?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35465372)
For the current tools, I believe it's down to load. It's one thing to have an agent check the system when someone asks. It's a different thing to rollout that access to millions of customers and have it work reliably.

BT has more customers and manages it just fine...

BenMcr 20-08-2012 13:43

Re: How unlimited is unlimited?
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35465393)
BT has more customers and manages it just fine...

And that proves what? Apart from they've built their current tools to be customer facing and to cope with that level of access.

qasdfdsaq 20-08-2012 13:44

Re: How unlimited is unlimited?
 
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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35465377)
Which, of course, clearly they do.

Thanks for editing my post to change its meaning and being fallacious as you usually do.

carlwaring 20-08-2012 14:13

Re: How unlimited is unlimited?
 
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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35465383)
So I can download as much as I want, within reason I think is the ultimate answer.

That's about it. Remember that it is a consumer, contended, service so the more you hog your connection may degrade the service for those who share your connection in the local green cabinet :)

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35465397)
Thanks for editing my post to change its meaning and being fallacious as you usually do.

Nonsense. Firstly, no-one but you can edit your posts. But I know what you meant ;)

The original quote was
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35465360)
I would expect VM (and all ISPs) abide by ASA's guidelines on use of the term "Unlimited" rather than making up their own definition ("Virgin Media speak"):

All I did was take out the reference to "all ISPs". Oh yes, and add in a word you missed out.

So I can't see how that changed anything of the meaning of your post :confused:

Mick 20-08-2012 14:15

Re: How unlimited is unlimited?
 
Thread closed at request of thread starter.

Oh look, a little argument stems out of nowhere. Only one person I know around here is capable of achieving this. Hello Carlwaring. :wavey:


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