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Itshim 04-07-2012 11:42
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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35449478)
And how often does that happen? Once a year during Wimbledon? Occasionally when any Live sport is shown?

Yes, I agree it shouldn't happen but I wouldn't call it a "major" drawback given how irregularly it happens.
How ever often it may or may not happen its a problem ( Is it common to all PVRs, I have no idea hence the question). Now if it worked in these cases that would be good (ADD TO MY WISH LIST :D )

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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35449486)
Then you would be wrong. Those are the original functions of the Tivo. And, in the case of Series Links, an essential basic function of any DVR.

If you don't need then, don't get a Tivo and save yourself some money and just get a standard VHD box which (AFAIK) includes a full 'red button' service.
I only "got" a TiVo as Virgin were GIVING them away , and offering a bribe every month to take one :p:
Personally I feel that any one paying good money of one ,felt they have to defend a poor decision. yet again I say Emperors new clothes. This comes from the ex owner of a Laser Disc player !!!

carlwaring 04-07-2012 11:45
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35449487)
How ever often it may or may not happen its a problem.
Which, of course, I agreed with.
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(Is it common to all PVRs, I have no idea hence the question).
Actually no. I think both Sky+ and Freeview have dynamic EPGs. The difference being that the EPG on those platforms are under direct control of the broadcaster whereas VM's (because it's a closed system) is run by a third-party.

Itshim 04-07-2012 11:50
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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35449491)
Which, of course, I agreed with.

Actually no. I think both Sky+ and Freeview have dynamic EPGs. The difference being that the EPG on those platforms are under direct control of the broadcaster whereas VM's (because it's a closed system) is run by a third-party.
A minus point then if you were thinking of moving to Virgin :shocked:

carlwaring 04-07-2012 12:27
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A small minus point, depending on how much you like Sport I suppose.

andy_m 04-07-2012 12:28
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Dynamic epg is a minus point for Virgin, but what I would say is that it tends to happen on channels which Virgin also operates a catch up service for, and the TiVo box makes it very easy to find repeat showings. I'd like a dynamic epg, I think it's the next thing Virgin should concentrate on, but I consider it a minor irritation rather than a major drawback.

Itshim 04-07-2012 12:30
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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35449506)
A small minus point, depending on how much you like Sport I suppose.
Or conversely the programme dropped/ put back / channel changed because of over run :dozey:

carlwaring 04-07-2012 12:35
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35449508)
Dynamic epg is a minus point for Virgin, but what I would say is that it tends to happen on channels which Virgin also operates a catch up service for, and the TiVo box makes it very easy to find repeat showings. I'd like a dynamic epg, I think it's the next thing Virgin should concentrate on, but I consider it a minor irritation rather than a major drawback.
Indeed, Andy.

Of course, Tivo always when a programme is live (like the Tennis) and so always asks if you want to add an hour (or more or less) to the recording. Of course, this won't help with channel changes but at least it's there.

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35449509)
Or conversely the programme dropped/ put back / channel changed because o over run :dozey:
Well, like I said, it can add an hours padding if you like. Yes, doesn't allow for every conceivable option but, in the absence of a DEPG it's okay.

andy_m 04-07-2012 12:48
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The option to add padding is good, but I think the issue is more for those who don't like sport and come to watch a recorded show only to find they've got the end of something which has overrun rather than the show which they actually wanted to watch. Like I say, this is where catch up and the TiVo features come in.

Itshim 04-07-2012 13:40
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35449523)
The option to add padding is good, but I think the issue is more for those who don't like sport and come to watch a recorded show only to find they've got the end of something which has overrun rather than the show which they actually wanted to watch. Like I say, this is where catch up and the TiVo features come in.
OK an example.

Casualty was due to follow the tennis. It was dropped ( As it happens she who must be obeyed) was watch the tennis anyhow. Normally its always a record option. Padding would not help, best hope (if you do not track it your self ) Is is that it all goes back a week ( so being picked up, one hopes)

It is something that if it could be "picked up" would be great. As I say no amount of padding would help in this type of case :rolleyes:

Even I would agree that its not really a TiVo fault,Just a problem that has long existed,that still awaits a solution :cool: Unless D-EPG does solve this. I have no idea by the way,if it does or does not.

andy_m 04-07-2012 13:49
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Yes, that's what I'm saying, padding wouldn't help the Casualty fan, it would only help the sports fan who's chosen to record the tennis rather than watch it live. Fortunately TiVo allows you to easily see when the episode of Casualty that you missed will be repeated, and also allows you to watch I player on your TV.

oliver1948uk 04-07-2012 15:28
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But will TiVo record the postponed episode? I suspect not because the box thinks it has already recorded it. We will see next week.

andy_m 04-07-2012 15:35
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I don't think it will either.

Itshim 04-07-2012 16:18
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Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 35449591)
But will TiVo record the postponed episode? I suspect not because the box thinks it has already recorded it. We will see next week.
My guess is it will all be the BBC`s fault :dozey: As the TiVo did not understand it & they should have got it right :D

jempalmer 04-07-2012 16:20
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A good question. If the episode is postponed will the Tivo record it? If you select only new episodes is Tivo that discerning? I ask simply because I have no idea, given that we don't record live broadcasts.

Itshim 04-07-2012 16:26
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Originally Posted by jempalmer (Post 35449626)
A good question. If the episode is postponed will the Tivo record it? If you select only new episodes is Tivo that discerning? I ask simply because I have no idea, given that we don't record live broadcasts.
Hence my comment blame the BBC how ever they list it if TiVo does not pick it up it will be there fault:)

And yes we have "new only" as it appears from time to time on other channels.


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