Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35416395)

Isn't philanthropy a very conservative ideal ?

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35416400)

No....

You must be thinking of philately.....

You know the old saying - philately will get you everywhere.

Originally Posted by deadite66 (Post 35416399)

I just thought it was ironic considering both him and his wife try to shovel as much cash as they can.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35416444)

I wonder how history will speak of him in 100yrs time ?

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35416451)

I don't care to be honest i will be worm food by then. I am only interested in what i call him now.

Its not nice and i would not post it here on a family forum ;)

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35416460)

I understand that .
I would hope that it is recorded that he was taken to task over the lies and had to answer for them even if only for the lives that where lost in a unnecessary and illegal war .Of course i doubt that will happen as it all seems to have been quietly swept under the carpet

Originally Posted by deadite66 (Post 35416387)

on Newsnight Bliar was on and mentioned he was giving speeches in America on philanthropy.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35416322)

Yes imo we do have to go on about it, for the sake of all the people that died because of their lies and I hope people keep on going on about it until those responsible are held to account.



Where did he even remotely suggest that.

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35416343)

Blair lied so that we could support America and take us into there War. We have lost good men in that war because of that lie. He should face charges and it just shows what side you have taken. I have a white feather here, Give me your address and i will send it to you.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35416350)

Another white feather here.

I just hope that justice will eventually catch up with these liars. It cought up with most of the Nazies eventually. (Oops, Godwins law strikes:D)

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35416444)

I wonder how history will speak of him in 100yrs time ?

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35416617)

Thats would would have happened if we did "Nothing"

Sure it was done on the basis of a lie, but it was a good idea anyway and should have been done much earlier

Also I can think of a lot of people who should stand for War Crimes than two ELECTED leaders! :mad: :td:

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Sirius for god sake I HAVE NOT TAKEN ANY SIDE!, I agree that Bush was a total idiot and Blair was rather flawed, alo that the Iraq and Afganistan Wars were done very badly, However those two do not deserve War Crimes charges and there a lot of of people who deserve them a lot more then those two :mad: :td:

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They got rid of two of the most repressive governments in the world, would you really want women bewing repressed in Kabul and Saddam killing Kurds?

Shame they did not deal with other Dictators, like Assad, Mugabe and many many others :(

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The Labour version of Thatcher, some like him very much, some very much hate him, I am in the middle

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35416617)

Sirius for god sake I HAVE NOT TAKEN ANY SIDE!, I agree that Bush was a total idiot and Blair was rather flawed, alo that the Iraq and Afganistan Wars were done very badly, However those two do not deserve War Crimes charges and there a lot of of people who deserve them a lot more then those two :mad: :td:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701 (Post 35416630)

Didn't you advocate the setting up of a world government and the forcing of countries into joining it? Sounds pretty dictorial to me.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35416632)

Bush and Blair went to war for reasons other than what they told their respective electorates .There where no WMA's and never where .If as you suggest it was a good thing that we went to war to remove Saddam from power ,what gives the US or GB the authority to decide who should be in power .Do we go to war everytime a dictator or government displeases us? .

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35416634)

Where have I said that I will repress Women, LGBT and the Working people?

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35416634)

And Yes we should go to war to remove dictators and other human rights violators, starting with Syria and Bahrain :angel:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701 (Post 35416638)

Perhaps you should read the question. Instead of making one of your own up.

Also it's not for you to repeat ANY part of a PRIVATE message. Especially as yo only quoted a small part of it.