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Arthurgray50@blu 25-03-2012 22:07

Re: Army doing rehersals for strike
 
Tankers drivers are after better pay and conditions, But the army are rehersing to take over deliveries if the drivers go on strike.

What l am saying is that, if there is a strike than l am all for it, the tanker drivers are after more money, and so are the rest of us, remember you work to live, not live to work.

Sirius 25-03-2012 22:24

Re: Army doing rehersals for strike
 
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35405300)
Tankers drivers are after better pay and conditions, But the army are rehersing to take over deliveries if the drivers go on strike.

What l am saying is that, if there is a strike than l am all for it, the tanker drivers are after more money, and so are the rest of us, remember you work to live, not live to work.

So what will you do when you have no fuel to get to work ?. How will you pay your bills ?

Maggy 26-03-2012 00:22

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35405278)
No, it's Maggie's fault!

I'm sick of telling everyone..It's nothing to do with me..Stop saying it is.:(

papa smurf 26-03-2012 07:09

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35405299)
Going on strike means they will have no money to live on.

Last I heard, companies dont pay strikers ....

but their union might have a strike fund to compensate for loss of wages

Sirius 26-03-2012 08:04

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35405329)
but their union might have a strike fund to compensate for loss of wages

That will not pay the wages of those who cannot get to work because they have no fuel, who pays there wages i wonder

Hom3r 26-03-2012 08:42

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35405337)
That will not pay the wages of those who cannot get to work because they have no fuel, who pays there wages i wonder


They don't but if you are part of a union they give you some money (IIRC)

papa smurf 26-03-2012 08:49

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35405337)
That will not pay the wages of those who cannot get to work because they have no fuel, who pays there wages i wonder

i would crawl to work over broken glass if i had to [i love my job and a little thing like no fuel wont stop me ] got my bonus paid this morning can you tell:)

Arthurgray50@blu 26-03-2012 09:07

Re: Army doing rehersals for strike
 
I firmly believe that if every worker in this country, said enough is enough, they would decide that they do in France and have a national strike.

I cannot understand why members are saying that striking is not the answer, ok you can sit down and talk about everything, But the cost of everything today is increasing, but wages are not.

The Army have to do what Whitehall tells them, but if the Tanker driver go on strike, it will effect every working person in this country, there will be queues at garage's again, you will have irate drivers, delivery companies, all over the country in dire straights.

And all this caused by something that can be sorted out by the government.

This government makes more tax out of fuel than anything else (Unless l am proved wrong). The next time you get a utility bill in work it out, and l bet you will be paying more than normal.

martyh 26-03-2012 09:20

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35405369)
I cannot understand why members are saying that striking is not the answer, ok you can sit down and talk about everything, But the cost of everything today is increasing, but wages are not.

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As far as i know one of the main reasons for the strike is because of H&S worries over using agency or contract drivers .Many feel that corners are being cut and safety is being compromised.If that is the case then i would have thought the drivers would not need to strike as they would have H&S law on their side ,which i would imagine are very strict where transporting highly volatile liquids is concerened...unless of course the H&S fears are unfounded and just a cover for a bit of union muscle flexing

Stuart 26-03-2012 10:09

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35405300)
What l am saying is that, if there is a strike than l am all for it, the tanker drivers are after more money, and so are the rest of us, remember you work to live, not live to work.

That's the problem. It's the start of a cycle..

Costs go up. People demand higher wages because the cost goes up. Companies have to find those extra wages somewhere, so their costs go up. They need to cover those costs, so their prices go up. Hence, the consumer ends up paying more, and demands higher wages.

I am not defending those companies who make record profits while cutting their staff wages (effectively), but we need to break that cycle. Unions, in my experience, do not want that cycle broken because while it would ultimately benefit their members, they just want their members paid more.

papa smurf 26-03-2012 10:12

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35405374)
As far as i know one of the main reasons for the strike is because of H&S worries over using agency or contract drivers .Many feel that corners are being cut and safety is being compromised.If that is the case then i would have thought the drivers would not need to strike as they would have H&S law on their side ,which i would imagine are very strict where transporting highly volatile liquids is concerened...unless of course the H&S fears are unfounded and just a cover for a bit of union muscle flexing

with H&S the main reason for this action is it wise to put army trained drivers in charge ?

Hom3r 26-03-2012 11:01

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35405391)
with H&S the main reason for this action is it wise to put army trained drivers in charge ?

They would be in safer hands, and the army handles high explosives, so petrol should be a piece of cake.

martyh 26-03-2012 11:15

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35405391)
with H&S the main reason for this action is it wise to put army trained drivers in charge ?

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35405412)
They would be in safer hands, and the army handles high explosives, so petrol should be a piece of cake.

I have no idea if it would be safer in army hands or not ,i would imagine the same regulations apply and would be adhered to .My point about H&S is that there should be no need to strike over this as the rules are hard and fast and breaches would leave companies and drivers open to prosecution .If drivers are saying that the rules need changing to make the jobe safer for them and the public then it should automatically be looked at by those in charge of H&S .If they are saying that contract drivers/agency drivers are breaching H&S then that needs sorting out at the highest level because they should be using the same H&S rules as all other drivers

chris9991 26-03-2012 11:18

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On the radio this morning (Wake Up to Money) they had a spokesperson for one of the companies and they said that typically wages were £45k per annum plus a final salary pension - certainly sounds good to me

papa smurf 26-03-2012 11:29

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35405412)
They would be in safer hands, and the army handles high explosives, so petrol should be a piece of cake.

most of these high explosives do not self detonate and not many army drivers will transport them -i was eluding to average jo army driver the one who was passing his test no matter how bad a driver he was , and then dumped into a piece of ancient junk that should have been scraped in the 50s;)


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