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The VM luvvies seem very quiet in here....

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There going to have to work hard to spin this one.;)

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TiVo ;) :D

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What does it matter what the monthy charge is for or if it is for anything at all?

At the end of the day, when you bought the Tiov server you agreed to pay an additional monthy charge.

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Who is a VM luvvie? :confused:

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Yeah but what actual services? The Apps anyone can get on a smart-TV or Smart box for free. The recording feature is available on freeview, freesat, for free once you buy the equipment. Recording is free with Sky if you subscribe.

EPG's are free on all platforms they're even built into TV's now with freesat/freeview ect. So again I ask...

What is the £5 paying for?

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Yeah but what actual services? The Apps anyone can get on a smart-TV or Smart box for free. The recording feature is available on freeview, freesat, for free once you buy the equipment. Recording is free with Sky if you subscribe.

EPG's are free on all platforms they're even built into TV's now with freesat/freeview ect. So again I ask...

What is the £5 paying for? This is looking more and more like a case of the Emperors new clothes.

What about on VIP where we don't pay a TiVo subscription fee

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You've answered your own question, Andrew ;)

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Now if they get netflix or love films included in the price rise I'd be happy but more needs to come to justify a 66% price increase

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*people who disagree with your viewpoint....;)

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and you would defend VM's (not very good) deception over the £5 increase to TiVo for existing customers ? Come on Hugh I thought you were a sensible man.

My post about my post being deleted has been deleted on the support forum (!) ho hum i don't think they like me.......... At least you do ! ;)

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Er, yeah. I'll assume I'm in the group you're referring to, and I must admit this is becoming increasingly difficult to defend. I can only assume that Virgin are confident that their pricing will remain competitive with Sky come September.

As for the fee, I believe it's for epg services provided by Tribune.

Cue complaints about error ridden, non-dynamic epg.

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Everything. Neil Berkett, chief executive, said that unlike British Sky Broadcasting's Sky+ box, Virgin Media did not subsidise TiVo.


Economics of a TiVo migrate

Box cost ~ £100

Install cost £40

Monthly rental £5*

…therefore payback in… < 3 years

incremental installation fee £50**

…which reduces payback further…

… but can be waived if the customer has the potential to deliver long term value…

Economics are even stronger for a new customer


* Includes VAT. £4.17 exc VAT. Fee increases to £5 on Feb 28th, 2012

** Includes VAT. £41.67 exc VAT

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I don't like price rises myself but won't those who had their existing STB relocated for no additional multiroom fee still be saving £1.50/month?

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https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...-p/1015721#M67