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Milambar 12-11-2011 19:00

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Meanwhile, sadly, my jitter has gone from good (6ms) pre-recent outage, to bad (52ms) post-outage. Makes playing games online a royal pain in the behind.

GazCBG 12-11-2011 19:21

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When I had 30Mb my jitter was between 1ms and 13ms
Now on 100Mb I am getting between 3ms and 13ms

7031 14-11-2011 13:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35329212)
kwikbreaks what I am finding odd is that now jitter on my connection is pretty good, no matter what time of day and what day of the week. Even on the superhub.

Yet downstream performance is all over the place and at peak its barely at half speed if that. Whilst a month and especially 2 months ago my jitter was all over the place but download speeds were pretty stable. Whenever my download speeds drop, sometimes my tbb graph looks completely normal, other times it shows an increase in latency but not huge amounts.

Are you using a wired or wireless connection?

On wired I actually have seen issues like this just caused by a faulty NIC.

kwikbreaks 14-11-2011 13:38

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I only spotted this because of the reply above.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35329212)
kwikbreaks what I am finding odd is that now jitter on my connection is pretty good, no matter what time of day and what day of the week. Even on the superhub.

Looking at mine would

a) be pointless because there is an accepted outstanding fault
b) doubtless wind me up and I don't really want to be tempted into taking ADSL again because the line fault on that would doubtless wind me up even more. I must admit I've already checked out Be's pricing and it's very tempting.

7031 14-11-2011 13:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35329964)
Looking at mine would

a) be pointless because there is an accepted outstanding fault
b) doubtless wind me up and I don't really want to be tempted into taking ADSL again because the line fault on that would doubtless wind me up even more. I must admit I've already checked out Be's pricing and it's very tempting.

Hmm yes. I did used to use BE until my phone line started having serious issues, and their customer service is excellent, as well as the forum community, and well, got a very good stable connection with them, along with a static IP address (you can purchase more).

It's just a shame that their prices have increased recently.

Chrysalis 14-11-2011 14:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 7031 (Post 35329949)
Are you using a wired or wireless connection?

On wired I actually have seen issues like this just caused by a faulty NIC.

latency/speed issues between my modem and VM result of my pc kit?

there is no latency/speed issues on my network.

Incidently when I posted my jitter wasnt too bad it started getting quite worse although the superhub is plugged in now so I am seeing the real picture.

To answer your question but you on the wrong path.

Gigabit wired connection over cat6, nic is a intel pci-e.

kwikbreaks 14-11-2011 14:44

Re: Is 50Mb still Traffic management free but for the upload
 
As I have a short line I'd get ~ 18Mbps if the fault was fixed. Even with it I was getting > 16Mbps but the phone itself was unusable because of noise from an HR disconnect fault.

I currently have 10Mbps + Vonage which costs £27 for 10Mbps with anytime calls.

If I went the Be route it would be £17 + £14 = £31 for 18Mbps + anytime calls and no STM.

I'd order Be today if it weren't for the dodgy phone line. I could stick with Vonage which would make it £17 + £10 + £6 = £33 That would sort out the phone problem but the ADSL may still be unstable. If I wait then eventually Infinity will arrive which with luck will bypass the dodgy joint and there will be plenty of feedback on whether BT are better with that than they are with ADSL.

cook1984 16-11-2011 23:19

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You can defeat the P2P and newsgroup throttling with a combination of techniques. On newsgroups make sure you have an SSL encrypted connection to the server, preferably not on the default port (port 443 is a good). Make sure protocol encryption is enabled for BitTorrent and eMule.

The second technique is to open more connections. VM's throttling isn't very effective when you have many, many connections. With newsgroups experiment by increasing the number of connections until you can saturate your line 24/7.

Unfortunately this all creates far worse network issues for VM and other uses, including reduced bandwidth, increased latency and increased jitter. Like many other ISPs Virgin appears to have found that the more they fight the worse it gets, so recently have tried adding more bandwidth instead which seems to be working much better.

7031 16-11-2011 23:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cook1984 (Post 35331264)
You can defeat the P2P and newsgroup throttling with a combination of techniques. On newsgroups make sure you have an SSL encrypted connection to the server, preferably not on the default port (port 443 is a good). Make sure protocol encryption is enabled for BitTorrent and eMule.

Hmm yes. I know Roger's cable in Canada actually limits all encrypted traffic to 100KB/s, along with other techniques which make it pretty much impossible to get reasonable speeds out of torrents.

cook1984 17-11-2011 22:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 7031 (Post 35331266)
Hmm yes. I know Roger's cable in Canada actually limits all encrypted traffic to 100KB/s, along with other techniques which make it pretty much impossible to get reasonable speeds out of torrents.

So presumably video calls via Skype or Facetime are impossible. VPN access for people trying to work at home will be ridiculously slow too. Their customers must love that.

I am moving towards doing everything encrypted. All Google services are available on SSL, for example, so I chew a lot of bandwidth when uploading backup files to my account. Everything is moving in that direction so merely retarding encrypted traffic is unlikely to be a viable option in the near future.

7031 17-11-2011 22:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cook1984 (Post 35331698)
So presumably video calls via Skype or Facetime are impossible. VPN access for people trying to work at home will be ridiculously slow too. Their customers must love that.

Not a clue, but I've noticed they like to randomly terminate SSL connections.


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