Re: Fifa tells referee to call off England game if players wear poppies
 

I'm sure even Germany remember their dead with some form of remembrance day.. but again what has that got to do with sport?

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But that's got nothing to do with wearing poppies in an international football match...

I don't think anyone is opposed to showing respect. What some people are saying is that FIFA have every right, and are right to not bow down to pressure from one nation to be granted an exception to an otherwise sensible rule.

What I do oppose to is the political affront and holier than thou attitude that some people are taking when an international body refuses to march to a regional band. It's bad enough that people are being pressured into wearing poppies in the UK. Leave the rest of the world out of it please.

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Well you will have your way..but the next time a football or a sports event takes place remember the legend that even during one of the bitterest wars of generations the two opposing sides managed to play a game of football on Christmas day..

Sport should rightly transcend politics.As I have stated remembrance of the dead has nothing political about it.It's merely a matter of respect.How anyone can say otherwise beats me.:(

Re: Fifa tells referee to call off England game if players wear poppies
 

You can remember the dead perfectly well without it affecting every aspect of public life and without showing the rest of world you're respecting the dead.

There's no need for bullying.

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This has nothing to do with politics as the poppy is and has always been a symbol of freedom in this country and many other countries.

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Yet the one pushing for a U-turn is David Cameron..

If this was purely about sports then the news item would never have been published never mind linked to on here :rolleyes:

Perhaps last saturday the premiership players should be wearing these

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/11/61.jpg

Re: Fifa tells referee to call off England game if players wear poppies
 

Who is bullying anyone?:confused:

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I think the sanctimonious outrage that occurs when a public person does not wear a poppy, or when an international sporting body refuses to bend the rules to allow poppies to be worn in an event that is totally unrelated to the poppy appeal amounts to a form of bullying.

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I have no intention of wearing a poppy ,not out of lack of respect but for purely practical reasons ,it wouldn't last 2 mins in my job and i don't go out anywhere so am i to face your wrath ? ,i have still donated but just didn't to take the poppy

Agree with everything you say Kymmy ,showing respect for the dead in war should not revolve around wearing a poppy once a year .I'm sure that the England players have respect and i'm also sure that a number had great/grandparents involved in the wars and i'm also sure that when the team get off the team bus in their official suits they will all be wearing poppy's ,90mins on a pitch not wearing a poppy won't make a difference to anyone ...big fuss over nothing

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Just another storm in a teacup, lots of people being "outraged" on behalf of others .....

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http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...ld-war-one.htm

If the players and everybody is that Outraged they should not play and also Boycott the game.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ppy?intcmp=239

Morons. I suppose it kind of vindicates FIFA's decision though.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/11/59.jpg

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The Poppy may have been intended as a symbol of remembrance, but certainly in the UK, as widely emphasised by posts in this thread, it is sold as a symbol of donation to a charitable appeal. That appeal not only raises money for the veterans of the two main wars, but also provides supports for thos in more recent conflicts. That has drawn the poppy into a more contentious symbol, and as the BBC article linked to by Danielf above indicates in some sectors of society, it can be seen to represent other authority.

To me, these days, the poppy I wear on my jacket is a symbol that I have donated to the charitable appeal, and thus support those, or their dependants, who have put themselves in harms way in the name of the political will of our country.

To that extent, fifa's view that the poppy could be viewed politically is appropriate.

The act of rememberance is the observation of the silence on the armistice day, or at a rememberance parade. You can't buy remembrance you do need to reflect on what it means.

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I really don't know why that Christmas match has been mentioned twice now,what has it to do with this thread ?all it proves is that during a cease fire at Christmas soldiers who don't realy want to be blowing each others brains out will play football with each other

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What happens when Serbia play Bosnia and they want an image remembering Arkan and his boys on their shirts. If this was so important why didn't we wear them on shirts for the other hundred odd years.

Just on the radio:

FIFA is allowing the team to play with poppys on the black armbands.