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denphone 01-10-2011 14:19

Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35307789)
My thoughts are with those about to loss there jobs:(

l second that.

joglynne 01-10-2011 14:26

Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35307789)
My thoughts are with those about to loss there jobs:(

I second that thought and I hope all the CF, VM Albert Dock, members get fixed up with alternative employment quickly. <hugs> to you all.

Maggy 01-10-2011 14:50

Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock
 
I wish them and everyone else facing closures and job redundancy at this time all the luck in the world.:ghugs:

Digital Fanatic 01-10-2011 17:43

Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock
 
Thanks guys :)

StuN 02-10-2011 11:26

Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock
 
The Albert Dock team are brilliant.
Thanks for all your help over the years

Mick Fisher 02-10-2011 14:17

Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock
 
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Originally Posted by StuN (Post 35308585)
The Albert Dock team are brilliant.
Thanks for all your help over the years

Ditto that.

Nopanic 03-10-2011 08:55

Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock
 
Hopefully it will help those far too good to be in a call centre to move to something more technically and help them realise their potential.

The job market being so crap, to be honest I'd be happy to see them all in work for now .. so many families, mortgages, some people will get nice pay outs, if redundancy is given .. but I'd rather have a job ..

AndyCalling 04-10-2011 01:51

Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock
 
This is upsetting and I wish all employees the best of luck. To any companies in Liverpool reading this; You would do well to hire VM support staff, their UK people are some of the very best I've ever called.

On a practical note, I personally would pay an extra pound or two a month to keep Liverpool office open and retain their valuable support. Am I alone here folks?

Mick Fisher 04-10-2011 14:22

Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock
 
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Originally Posted by AndyCalling (Post 35309716)
This is upsetting and I wish all employees the best of luck. To any companies in Liverpool reading this; You would do well to hire VM support staff, their UK people are some of the very best I've ever called.

On a practical note, I personally would pay an extra pound or two a month to keep Liverpool office open and retain their valuable support. Am I alone here folks?

I'd go for that especially if it meant getting rid of the awful off-shored support that let both VM and it's Subs down so badly.

RichardCoulter 04-10-2011 17:15

Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock
 
I really do think that it is counter productive to send call centres offshore. Yes, the overheads are cheaper and the staff easier to manage, but, it takes much longer to sort out issues as many people can't understand what they are saying.

In many cases, they reach the end of their script and book an engineer unneccessarily. I dread to think how much that has cost the company.

This latest sad news about Albert Dock just goes to show how challenging the current economic climate is for all businesses at the moment. As a company director, I have had to make some difficult decisions to improve efficiency and implement austerity measures. Many forecasters are predicting that it will get worse still. :Yikes:

The best advice I can give to the remaining staff is what I told our managers to say at the latest team briefing. Keep your head down and work hard whilst remembering how important the attraction of new and the retention of old customers is.

VM, like the main industry that I am involved with, in the main offers a luxury product that people can live without.

All the best to anyone unfortunate enough to lose their job. If you are affected, please don't take it personally. It is true to say that management use situations like this to get rid of any dead wood, but, it is also inevitable that many decent experienced people lose their jobs too.

Times like this are just as upsetting for management, but tough decisions have to be made to ensure the long term survival of the company for the sake of everybody.

Nopanic 05-10-2011 08:49

Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35309974)
I really do think that it is counter productive to send call centres offshore. Yes, the overheads are cheaper and the staff easier to manage, but, it takes much longer to sort out issues as many people can't understand what they are saying.

In many cases, they reach the end of their script and book an engineer unneccessarily. I dread to think how much that has cost the company.

This latest sad news about Albert Dock just goes to show how challenging the current economic climate is for all businesses at the moment. As a company director, I have had to make some difficult decisions to improve efficiency and implement austerity measures. Many forecasters are predicting that it will get worse still. :Yikes:

The best advice I can give to the remaining staff is what I told our managers to say at the latest team briefing. Keep your head down and work hard whilst remembering how important the attraction of new and the retention of old customers is.

VM, like the main industry that I am involved with, in the main offers a luxury product that people can live without.

All the best to anyone unfortunate enough to lose their job. If you are affected, please don't take it personally. It is true to say that management use situations like this to get rid of any dead wood, but, it is also inevitable that many decent experienced people lose their jobs too.

Times like this are just as upsetting for management, but tough decisions have to be made to ensure the long term survival of the company for the sake of everybody.

You really like to talk about yourself don't you ..

StuN 05-10-2011 13:11

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Actually Richard, you couldn't be further from the truth.
Statistics show that when there's a recession, people actually upgrade their media services as they don't go out as much.

Peter_ 05-10-2011 14:03

Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35309974)

VM, like the main industry that I am involved with, in the main offers a luxury product that people can live without.

Broadband has not not been classed a luxury for a very long time as the is such a high demand which can be met by the different ISP's out there.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35309974)
All the best to anyone unfortunate enough to lose their job. If you are affected, please don't take it personally. It is true to say that management use situations like this to get rid of any dead wood, but, it is also inevitable that many decent experienced people lose their jobs too.

You have no idea of the kind of skill sets that will be lost when this centre closes and any so called "dead wood" are quickly weeded out by virtue of the targets that need to be attained and maintained so you cannot equate this to your business or many others.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35309974)
Times like this are just as upsetting for management, but tough decisions have to be made to ensure the long term survival of the company for the sake of everybody.

Times like this are never upsetting for management and most companies find decisions like this all to easy to make.

RichardCoulter 05-10-2011 14:46

Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock
 
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Originally Posted by Nopanic (Post 35310352)
You really like to talk about yourself don't you ..

A perfect example of dead wood. Why would VM want to employ someone who speaks to customers like that and get rid of a valued team member instead? In my experience a period on reduced rate Jobseekers Allowance is often the best cure for such attitudinal problems.

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Originally Posted by StuN (Post 35310447)
Actually Richard, you couldn't be further from the truth.
Statistics show that when there's a recession, people actually upgrade their media services as they don't go out as much.

Yes, you do have a point to an extent, but the economic experts say that the economy is set to worsen. Pay TV V feeding your family- no competition.

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35310488)
Broadband has not not been classed a luxury for a very long time as the is such a high demand which can be met by the different ISP's out there.

Broadband is not an essential service for the vast majority of domestic users, indeed it has only been available in relatively recent times.

You have no idea of the kind of skill sets that will be lost when this centre closes and any so called "dead wood" are quickly weeded out by virtue of the targets that need to be attained and maintained so you cannot equate this to your business or many others.

It is unfortunate when those with skills have to be let go, as, has happened in past recessions, the same people have often moved on and are no longer available.

Times like this are never upsetting for management and most companies find decisions like this all to easy to make.

Nonsense, I have met a number of VM senior management. They understand the human cost of such action, however necessary it may be.

It is important to remember that management have to maintain a public face, but also have a private side to their lives. I tend to meet them during social occasions and many have expressed their regret at having to make the various forthcoming efficiency measures.

Management are not devoid of all emotion and a little understanding would be appreciated.

---------- Post added at 13:46 ---------- Previous post was at 13:42 ----------

Not sure what happened there lol, my responses appear to have been absorbed into your message masque!

Chris 05-10-2011 14:57

Re: Virgin Media Closing Albert Dock
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35310517)
A perfect example of dead wood. Why would VM want to employ someone who speaks to customers like that and get rid of a valued team member instead? In my experience a period on reduced rate Jobseekers Allowance is often the best cure for such attitudinal problems.

Richard, I for one am quite sick of your aggressive, bullying attitude towards members of this forum that are identifiable as virgin employees.

Let me make something crystal clear to you: they are here in their own time and are free to share their own opinions. This is something that members of this forum team established many years ago when some of us met senior management and it is something I believe that some, at least, of our members have established directly with their own managers.

Nopanic is not here to represent the company and he is not here to treat you as his customer. You are not here to get customer service from Virgin Media. If you want people to crawl and cringe all over you, by all means clear off and find another forum where your ego might get the stroking it seems to need.

And no, I will not be deleting this post, as I deleted my previous comments aimed at you, because this time I've taken the precaution of checking that the thread hasn't been closed while I've been composing it. Which is the only reason I withdrew my suggestion that you live in a fantasy universe. Etc.

So, off you go, you know where the 'whinge about this post' button is.


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