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Sirius 13-10-2011 22:41

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35315280)
Nothing, few folk complained about trivial things

So in other words nothing for some to get there teeth into :LOL:

jb66 13-10-2011 22:56

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
No TiVo bashing and to mention of FTP lololol

thenry 14-10-2011 00:28

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
Ann Robinson said at the end of the last episode prior to tonights that they will basically do a report on both VM and Sky claiming "unlimited" services. I thought it would of been more in depth but was literally about a couple of cock ups to peoples services.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/...ky_virgin.html

Sirius 14-10-2011 08:02

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35315341)
Ann Robinson said at the end of the last episode prior to tonights that they will basically do a report on both VM and Sky claiming "unlimited" services. I thought it would of been more in depth but was literally about a couple of cock ups to peoples services.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/...ky_virgin.html

Or they did not have the dirt to dig up on it in the first place, Watchdog can sometimes remind me of a tabloid comic trying its damndest to sensationalise its output. :rolleyes:

Welshchris 15-10-2011 02:51

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
well seems detrememntal use has ended according to a post made by a member of staff on the forums on the 11th..

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../758779/page/3

Sirius 15-10-2011 10:46

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
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Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35315857)
well seems detrememntal use has ended according to a post made by a member of staff on the forums on the 11th..

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../758779/page/3

Excellent news.

However there has to be a reason why they have done this. That reason will no doubt rise it's ugly head at some point soon.

Welshchris 15-10-2011 18:00

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
i reckon they will bring in harsher traffic management measures.

Sirius 15-10-2011 18:17

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
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Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35316049)
i reckon they will bring in harsher traffic management measures.

To be honest i would not like to bet against you on that.

jb66 15-10-2011 18:36

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
Something like if you download over 1tb you get throttled by 75% till next month?

Sirius 15-10-2011 19:18

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35316062)
Something like if you download over 1tb you get throttled by 75% till next month?

More like if you use your connection for anything other than mail and surfing we will restrict you. :LOL:

Welshchris 16-10-2011 01:50

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
I hope they throttle heavy downloaders at peak times.

For example on lets say 50mb if you download more than say 20GB at peak time ur throttled by 75% for 5hrs.

Also a monthly download limit would be food on the packages.
Again for example lets say on 50mb if you download more than 500GB in a month ur throttled by 75%.

starfish 24-10-2011 23:34

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35315857)
well seems detrememntal use has ended according to a post made by a member of staff on the forums on the 11th..

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../758779/page/3

Just came across this thread, excellent news, thank you for that! Has there been a more official statement since that post, maybe on VM's website? As a lucky recipient of the letter last year, I would have appreciated another letter telling me that the policy is ending/has ended. I guess that's too much to hope for though, since they will not want people to know about it.

Or will it only become official in 2012?

m419 25-10-2011 00:29

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
But that's what I don't get, it is unlimited whereas BT Total Broadband isn't. Regardless of whether they slow internet speeds down at peak times or not, they still give you internet access with no usage limit whereas BT do and charge you for going over that limit.

So Virgin Media will definately find loopholes around this,

The worst one is Vodafone and Virgin Mobile advertising there 'Unlimited' free same network calls. It blatently not! its 2000 vodafone to vodafone minutes and same with Virgin Mobile.

3 has toned down the use of the 'unlimited' phrase and advertises its offerings properly, it used to say unlimited texts, now it tells you how many texts you get same with the 3 to 3 calls and data usage. It's been like this for about a year.

The other one was free cable to cable calls with NTL,Telewest,Cable and Wireless,Cable London and Eurobell. They still charged you a call connection fee! So making 10 calls in an evening would cost up to 60p! Over 10 days that's £6 and over a month it's around £18. So much for free calls!

And the best one of all time, Get UNLIMITED calls with Talk UNLIMITED, BT calls it BT Anytime Calls formerly BT Together Option 3 as they probably think like I do. Telewest was the first to launch this round 2001/2002 and it truly was unlimited even after 59 minutes of a call.

The reason why it was scrapped was because the billing system couldn't cope, but i've been told that since both NTL and Telewest merged they now use a system called Icoms and there is now no longer any need for all that hang up after 59 minutes crap, they should put it back to how it was!

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35307321)
Just as an FYI the Advertising Standards Agency have published a report on the advertising of broadband services in terms of the speeds that operators are allowed to advertise and use of 'Unlimited'.

The advertising of speeds doesn't affect VM, however the 'unlimited' section does, and basically the Detrimental Usage Policy is against those rules, so has to change or 'unlimited' has to go from the advertising by April 2012.



Other plans afoot so all good.


Ignitionnet 25-10-2011 10:29

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
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Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35320773)
But that's what I don't get, it is unlimited whereas BT Total Broadband isn't. Regardless of whether they slow internet speeds down at peak times or not, they still give you internet access with no usage limit whereas BT do and charge you for going over that limit.

Not on their unlimited packages, they never have charged overages for them they previously throttled after hitting a certain limit. This limit was removed in April of this year and BT rely purely on traffic shaping.

keepitretro 25-10-2011 16:22

Re: Virgin Media To Lose 'Unlimited' Or Detrimental Usage Policy
 
Hmm was keeping to downloading 9pm to 9am, when i first heard about the letter thingy but now there's no danger of a letter, im filling my boots while i can.....

I pay £42 a month for my internet, and for that amount you should be able to use it whenever you want for whatever YOU want to.

The removal of the word unlimited, not sure on that one, but having a limit on data each month would be the worst thing they could do in my opinion.

The comcast 100mb download speed and 300gb cap a month is an absolute joke if that kind of [Mod Edit] ever started here i would cancel asap as i think many others would


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