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Hugh 09-09-2011 16:07

Re: Rugby World Cup 2011
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35298297)
Nice reply but my point is made about the last 5 world cups and when it comes to a crucial match at the knockout stage they have fallen short thus their last world cup they won was in 1987.


And by the way who is your tip.

So according to your viewpoint, England have choked twice in the finals and once in the quarter-finals of the World Cup....:D

My tip? My heart is with England, but my brain is with SA or NZ.

denphone 09-09-2011 16:16

Re: Rugby World Cup 2011
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35298300)
So according to your viewpoint, England have choked twice in the finals and once in the quarter-finals of the World Cup....:D

My tip? My heart is with England, but my brain is with SA or NZ.

Ah but we were discussing the All Blacks and their record in the world cup but England generally apart from the Woodward era have never been good enough.;)

My tip? Well my heart will be with England but my brain says that the Springboks will win the tournament.

Osem 09-09-2011 22:55

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The point about NZ is that IMHO they've been the outstanding team in the world for years but have failed to translate all that domination into proportionate World Cup success. I haven't got all the stats but, with the exception of 2003, I don't think England have been all that high in the world rankings over the years yet their World Cup results have been better than they'd suggest.

I have a feeling the Aussies are going to cap a rotten 6 months for NZ.

Shadow Demon UK 10-09-2011 02:01

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35298294)
All Blacks stats for the last few years...

2010 stats - played 14, won 13

2009 stats - played 10, won 5

2008 stats - played 16, won 14

With that record, I wish the England team were "chokers"......;)


New Zealand's rugby union side are pretty much the text-book definition of chokers in sport. Always the favourite by some distance for the last few world cups but when it comes to the crunch they fail to deliver time after time.

denphone 10-09-2011 07:53

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New Zealand 41 Tonga 10

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rug...ch-report.html

Scotland 34 - 24 Romania

http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Rugb...-34.6833870.jp

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Fiji 49 Namibia 25

http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/ma...sounding+style

denphone 10-09-2011 09:56

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France 47 Japan 21

http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/ma...+gallant+japan

Osem 10-09-2011 11:17

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England looking very ponderous and shaky against Argentina. Reminds me of the last world cup. We got to the final then but never really played fluently and I don't see the tournament treating us quite so kindly this time around if there isn't a rapid improvement. Too many penalties could already have cost us dear. Whilst on balance I feel a really tough test is the best way to start a tournament like this, England could easily lose this if they don't get focused and cut out the sloppy mistakes. Johnson will be incandescent I reckon.

Oh and I must say, I just hate the choice of kit. Whose bright idea was that?

denphone 10-09-2011 11:28

Re: Rugby World Cup 2011
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35298524)
England looking very ponderous and shaky against Argentina. Reminds me of the last world cup. We got to the finals then but never really played fluently and I don't see the tournament treating us quite so kindly this time around if there isn't a rapid improvement. I must say, I just hate the choice of kit.

Well l have to say England have been utterly shocking in the first half and we were supposed to be well prepared and yes which stupid idiot designed this kit for us as our kit should be all white.

colin25 10-09-2011 11:40

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I agree with kit...idiots to choose black.

England are poor, but no doubt they will improve when they play Scotland

Osem 10-09-2011 11:47

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Maybe it's all a plan - the runner up in Pool B will play the winner of Pool A which will probably be NZ. Maybe Johnson feels the only way to be credible RWC winners this time out will be to knock NZ out..... :erm: :rolleyes:

colin25 10-09-2011 11:53

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Or, Scotland beat Argentina, then beat England, and England plays with themselves :D

denphone 10-09-2011 11:59

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Well the way this is going l can see the headlines coming now "The bleakest day in English rugby"

colin25 10-09-2011 12:01

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35298533)
Well the way this is going l can see the headlines coming now "The bleakest day in English rugby"

Too soon for that headline, wait until they are officially knocked out :D

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Nooooooooo, they scored :(

alferret 10-09-2011 12:05

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You missed out on the "I dont care about rugby to get excited about it" option :)

colin25 10-09-2011 12:10

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Originally Posted by alferret (Post 35298537)
You missed out on the "I dont care about rugby to get excited about it" option :)

That option is always available, you just don't vote :D


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