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Nonsense. they don't just shoot people dead for carrying a gun in this country. that kind of thing would cause riots amongst the people who say he should have been given a chance to surrender peacefully with the use of negotiations.

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I don't agree. If a civilian carries a firearm or even a replica firearm and points it in the general direction of a police officer I believe the officer has every right to shoot. If he is in fear of his life then he should not have to wait for the criminal to take the first shot.

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If the criminals are prepared to use a gun then they have to face the consequences of it all.

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if he pointed the gun at anyone then he should be shot regardless of wether he fired or not

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If you carry a gun then you have to accept the consequences of any action the police take. No grey area about it.

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We don't know if he pointed the gun. we don't know if he fired first. we don't know anything.

if he fired at the police first then yes. shoot the idiot.

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if, if, and if.

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in my opinion if he's carrying a gun full stop ,then shoot the idiot

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Agree fully. there is NO NEED for a member of the public to be carrying a hand gun.

All those that think the cops are to blame give me a legal legitimate reason for a member of the public to be carrying a hand gun in public that is loaded with rounds and ready to use ????

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The police don't have to wait for shots to be fired and nor should they.

Not sure of the actual rules of engagement but something along the lines of any threatening move with a lethal weapon, raising a gun with the intent to fire etc.

Personally I wouldn't want the job,

Immense pressure, immense responsibility and knowledge that your every move will be scrutinised. Demonised by people in the area and usually by the press most of which have no concept what is involved in shooting a weapon.

JJ

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Yup, agree with most...man has gun..man gets shot

Man not carry gun...man not get shot

Simples

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Even a water pistol?
does anyone get a few seconds to say it's only a water pistol?
or shot dead?

walk into a police station with a gun found on the step outside.
shot dead?

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A excellent well thought out post.

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'Operation Trident' and CO19 were not involved because he had unpaid parking tickets.:rolleyes:

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Are you going to have an adult debate here or are you going to keep posting verbal diarrhea

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the rules of engagment are ruffly the sames as the armed forces when based in the uk.

Must identify themselves and declare intent to fire (unless this risks serious harm).
Should aim for the biggest target (the torso) to incapacitate and for greater accuracy.
Should reassess the situation after each shot.
must only fire if instructed to by a superior officer, or you belive that your life or another life is in danger.
must only fire if there is minimal danger of civilian casualties.