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passingbat 24-05-2011 15:48
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Originally Posted by mark1234 (Post 35244082)
Windows Media Centre does this wonderfully. If there are clashes then it will look across all channels to find another showing that it will then schedule to record. If it cannot find another showing within the the current guide data (it has a fortnights worth) then it remembers what show(s) it cannot record and if they are repeated in the future then they get scheduled to record.
Now, that's good. Tivo should do that.

clinteastman 24-05-2011 16:24
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Originally Posted by mark1234 (Post 35244082)
Windows Media Centre does this wonderfully. If there are clashes then it will look across all channels to find another showing that it will then schedule to record. If it cannot find another showing within the the current guide data (it has a fortnights worth) then it remembers what show(s) it cannot record and if they are repeated in the future then they get scheduled to record.
Now don't get me wrong I love my TiVo but I wish VM went with Windows Media Centre Embedded... :(

toady 24-05-2011 17:03
Re: Is Tivo actually ready for VMs market?
 
I don't think that TIVO is ready for the general VM customer, there are too many issues at the moment

Its OK for us techie types who visit the forum and get responses from VM people and work arounds

It depends on how quickly VM can update the software and remove the problems

Quicker updates to resolve bugs one at a time might be better than waiting ages for a huge update and giving the impression that nothings being done about the problems

denphone 24-05-2011 17:15
Re: Is Tivo actually ready for VMs market?
 
l think it is ready and as with any new box there will also be litle bugs and issues.

DaBoz 24-05-2011 19:57
Re: Is Tivo actually ready for VMs market?
 
If anyone else in my family took TiVo, they would have struggled and possibly given it back. Only by ploughing the forums and nagging VM staff over at VM support forum did I get workarounds or indication of upcoming fixes. Rest of family would never go to Internet for advice on STB.

Can't see my other relatives working it out either. Its easy to say "create a wishlist with optional keywords", "change series link priorities", "check recording hiccups and upcoming shows to resolve conflicts", but not everyone will find that easy to deal with or even get in the right headspace to tackle the problems.

I'm liking TiVo more and more and glad I didn't send it back, but it's not yet a noddy STB.

denphone 24-05-2011 20:01
Re: Is Tivo actually ready for VMs market?
 
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Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35244245)
If anyone else in my family took TiVo, they would have struggled and possibly given it back. Only by ploughing the forums and nagging VM staff over at VM support forum did I get workarounds or indication of upcoming fixes. Rest of family would never go to Internet for advice on STB.

Can't see my other relatives working it out either. Its easy to say "create a wishlist with optional keywords", "change series link priorities", "check recording hiccups and upcoming shows to resolve conflicts", but not everyone will find that easy to deal with or even get in the right headspace to tackle the problems.

I'm liking TiVo more and more and glad I didn't send it back, but it's not yet a noddy STB.
Glad you are gradually getting used to it, you just have to persevere.

devilincarnate 24-05-2011 20:06
Re: Is Tivo actually ready for VMs market?
 
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Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35244245)
If anyone else in my family took TiVo, they would have struggled and possibly given it back. Only by ploughing the forums and nagging VM staff over at VM support forum did I get workarounds or indication of upcoming fixes. Rest of family would never go to Internet for advice on STB.
You would be a very good advocate to show them how to use the box:D:D

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Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35244245)
Can't see my other relatives working it out either. Its easy to say "create a wishlist with optional keywords", "change series link priorities", "check recording hiccups and upcoming shows to resolve conflicts", but not everyone will find that easy to deal with or even get in the right headspace to tackle the problems.
As I have said above:D

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Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35244245)
I'm liking TiVo more and more and glad I didn't send it back, but it's not yet a noddy STB.
Why would you not like to go back to the V+:D:D:D:D

JethroUK 24-05-2011 20:48
Re: Is Tivo actually ready for VMs market?
 
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Originally Posted by joff81 (Post 35244070)
..Most of us can tell even at this early stage VM TiVo is going to be massive and a unique product offering that nobody out there can come close to.
New Tivo might be leaps and bounds ahead of V+, might even be the best 'cable' PVR for long time & i am looking forward to it - but there's plenty comes more than close - in fact only couple posts down:

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Originally Posted by mark1234 (Post 35244082)
Windows Media Centre does this wonderfully. If there are clashes then it will look across all channels to find another showing that it will then schedule to record. If it cannot find another showing within the the current guide data (it has a fortnights worth) then it remembers what show(s) it cannot record and if they are repeated in the future then they get scheduled to record.
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Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35244125)
Now don't get me wrong I love my TiVo but I wish VM went with Windows Media Centre Embedded... :(
Would it still be Tivo if it's got WMC engine in it?

Pbryanw 24-05-2011 22:43
Re: Is Tivo actually ready for VMs market?
 
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Originally Posted by JethroUK (Post 35244264)
Would it still be Tivo if it's got WMC engine in it?
And is Windows Media Centre better then when I last used it with XP Media Centre Edition? I bought the MCE remote, a big hard-drive for films, installed My Movies, but the reality never lived up to my expectations (and it seemed to crash a lot).

I wouldn't swap TiVo for MCE (although MCE might have improved since I last used it). Also one of TiVo's features I like the most - suggestions - seems to be unique to TiVo. I love the fact that I don't have to set up lots of recordings, just teach it my likes/dislikes and it'll record plenty of programs to watch, without too much effort on my part. It's strange that more set-top boxes haven't copied this feature :confused:

alwaysabear 24-05-2011 22:45
Re: Is Tivo actually ready for VMs market?
 
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Originally Posted by Pbryanw (Post 35244343)
And is Windows Media Centre better then when I last used it with XP Media Centre Edition? I bought the MCE remote, a big hard-drive for films, installed My Movies, but the reality never lived up to my expectations (and it seemed to crash a lot).

I wouldn't swap MCE for TiVo (although MCE might have improved since I last used it). Also one of TiVo's features I like the most - suggestions - seems to be unique to TiVo. I love the fact that I don't have to set up lots of recordings, just teach it my likes/dislikes and it'll record plenty of programs to watch, without too much effort on my part. It's strange that more set-top boxes haven't copied this feature :confused:
Patents .

Pbryanw 24-05-2011 22:58
Re: Is Tivo actually ready for VMs market?
 
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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35244344)
Patents .
Ah, that explains it :) :tu: . And I can see now that if you had such a great feature, that made your set-top box unique, then you would strongly patent it. Makes me glad this tech has found its way to the UK via Virgin.

hedgie 24-05-2011 23:55
Re: Is Tivo actually ready for VMs market?
 
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Originally Posted by DaBoz (Post 35244245)
I'm liking TiVo more and more and glad I didn't send it back, but it's not yet a noddy STB.
I don't think it was ever intended to be a "noddy" STB, In principle the Thumb function should be simple, but inevitably it is complex platform now if Apple did the user interface.....................;)

clinteastman 25-05-2011 10:37
Re: Is Tivo actually ready for VMs market?
 
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Originally Posted by JethroUK (Post 35244264)
Would it still be Tivo if it's got WMC engine in it?
No it would be a WMC box.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pbryanw (Post 35244343)
And is Windows Media Centre better then when I last used it with XP Media Centre Edition? I bought the MCE remote, a big hard-drive for films, installed My Movies, but the reality never lived up to my expectations (and it seemed to crash a lot).

I wouldn't swap TiVo for MCE (although MCE might have improved since I last used it). Also one of TiVo's features I like the most - suggestions - seems to be unique to TiVo. I love the fact that I don't have to set up lots of recordings, just teach it my likes/dislikes and it'll record plenty of programs to watch, without too much effort on my part. It's strange that more set-top boxes haven't copied this feature :confused:
You do realise the MCE XP is 10 years old right?

toady 25-05-2011 11:50
Re: Is Tivo actually ready for VMs market?
 
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Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 35244376)
I don't think it was ever intended to be a "noddy" STB, In principle the Thumb function should be simple, but inevitably it is complex platform now if Apple did the user interface.....................;)
If Apple did the interface, you would only be able to watch what Apple approves of and any recordings would have to obtained by the iTunes store :D

muppetman11 25-05-2011 12:10
Re: Is Tivo actually ready for VMs market?
 
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Originally Posted by toady (Post 35244491)
If Apple did the interface, you would only be able to watch what Apple approves of and any recordings would have to obtained by the iTunes store :D
And flash wouldnt work :D


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