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TheDon 04-07-2011 15:05

Re: 1gb speeds on the horizon?
 
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Originally Posted by BomberAF (Post 35268033)
and we are not talking about youtube, we are talking proper 3D quality, which equates to 2 HD broadcasts played in sync with each other.,

3D on blu-ray only has a 50% overhead compared to 2D.
There is no reason to need double the bandwidth.

TJS 04-07-2011 16:37

Re: 1gb speeds on the horizon?
 
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Originally Posted by BomberAF (Post 35268033)
I don't know where your getting your HD 3D films from at anything less than 4.5Gbps. Every blue ray film I have is 4.5GB, so a 3D film would be at least that.

And back to the point, you WOULD have to wait for it to buffer, and we are not talking about youtube, we are talking proper 3D quality, which equates to 2 HD broadcasts played in sync with each other.,

The bluray for the film SALT with Angelina Jolie in is ~44.5 GB

Dvd films are usually arround 4 - 5 GB

BomberAF 04-07-2011 16:49

Re: 1gb speeds on the horizon?
 
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Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35268198)
The bluray for the film SALT with Angelina Jolie in is ~44.5 GB

Dvd films are usually arround 4 - 5 GB

That is what I meant to put sorry.

qasdfdsaq 04-07-2011 22:38

Re: 1gb speeds on the horizon?
 
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Originally Posted by BomberAF (Post 35268033)
I don't know where your getting your HD 3D films from at anything less than 4.5Gbps. Every blue ray film I have is 4.5GB, so a 3D film would be at least that.

And back to the point, you WOULD have to wait for it to buffer, and we are not talking about youtube, we are talking proper 3D quality, which equates to 2 HD broadcasts played in sync with each other.,

I'm not getting HD 3D films because there's nowhere to legally stream them from, hence I've already told you I wasn't talking about films. I'm talking about Youtube. That's the highest bandwidth-consuming real-time usage I can think of.

There is nowhere that you can currently stream higher than 10-20mbps video from, films or otherwise.

We're not talking proper 3D quality, so quit making crap up just to defend your half-assed ignorant attempt at changing the subject.

The highest bandwidth real-time streaming available to most people right now is Youtube 3D, and that's 10mbps. Alternatively Youtube at 4K uses up to 20mbps, but 4K material is rare. End of discussion.

BomberAF 05-07-2011 09:52

Re: 1gb speeds on the horizon?
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35268347)
I'm not getting HD 3D films because there's nowhere to legally stream them from, hence I've already told you I wasn't talking about films. I'm talking about Youtube. That's the highest bandwidth-consuming real-time usage I can think of.

There is nowhere that you can currently stream higher than 10-20mbps video from, films or otherwise.

We're not talking proper 3D quality, so quit making crap up just to defend your half-assed ignorant attempt at changing the subject.

The highest bandwidth real-time streaming available to most people right now is Youtube 3D, and that's 10mbps. Alternatively Youtube at 4K uses up to 20mbps, but 4K material is rare. End of discussion.

Listen I am not trying to change the subject, you are now tr4ying to cover your clueless arse up. I was refering to on demand services such as the Iplayer and other streaming services such as Love Film who may want to stream 3d films over the web. If like you was talking about was just youTube then I apologise, but I was talking about true quality 3D films being streamed.

TheDon 05-07-2011 10:57

Re: 1gb speeds on the horizon?
 
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Originally Posted by BomberAF (Post 35268450)
Listen I am not trying to change the subject, you are now tr4ying to cover your clueless arse up. I was refering to on demand services such as the Iplayer and other streaming services such as Love Film who may want to stream 3d films over the web. If like you was talking about was just youTube then I apologise, but I was talking about true quality 3D films being streamed.

You know, streaming services like Iplayer and love film have never, and probably will never, offer true to bluray quality streaming. They're far more likely to offer them at the same quality youtube does.

You're also ignoring the fact you're way over estimating how much bandwidth a "true quality 3D" film would take, like I posted above, the 3D spec within bluray has an overhead of around 50%, it's no where near double nor does it ever need to be.

qasdfdsaq 05-07-2011 18:44

Re: 1gb speeds on the horizon?
 
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Originally Posted by BomberAF (Post 35268450)
Listen I am not trying to change the subject, you are now tr4ying to cover your clueless arse up. I was refering to on demand services such as the Iplayer and other streaming services such as Love Film who may want to stream 3d films over the web. If like you was talking about was just youTube then I apologise, but I was talking about true quality 3D films being streamed.

This is what I said, and I quote:

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35265378)
Quad-HD streaming on youtube only takes 20mb and 1080p 3D takes 10mb. That's the highest real-time bandwidth consumer I can think of.

Was that really so hard it took you 6 days to comprehend?

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Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35268484)
You know, streaming services like Iplayer and love film have never, and probably will never, offer true to bluray quality streaming. They're far more likely to offer them at the same quality youtube does.

Indeed. iPlayer previously stated their HD streaming services were targeted at around 2-4mbps. That was a few years ago though, but they did say they were aiming for 5-10mbps in the long run, not sure if it's been reached yet. Still no higher than Youtube.

Given PtMP streaming (i.e. cable and satellite TV) still only gets half the bandwidth of actual blu-ray there's no way in hell on-demand IP streaming will surpass it anytime soon.


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