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craigj2k12 12-05-2011 17:55

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35234860)
No they aren't, and are being done on an aggregated basis. No individual data is being stored on individual subscribers.

still, individual packets are being inspected

Sirius 12-05-2011 18:04

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35234852)
Set up what?

I restrict access to certain sites

craigj2k12 12-05-2011 18:08

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35234976)
I restrict access to certain sites

The problem with the custom firmwares like tomato and DDWRT, the 2 i have used is that they can block sites, and based on keywords as well, but they dont have a database of bad sites like blocking software does, so you cant ask it to block "p0rn0gr4ph1c" sites or "social networking" sites where the router would have a stored database of these sites and block them based on what category is set.

i personally would be against it being set at the ISP, and if virgin were to do it, I would assess the situation and consider changing ISP

Sirius 12-05-2011 18:18

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
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Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35234982)

i personally would be against it being set at the ISP, and if virgin were to do it, I would assess the situation and consider changing ISP

Agreed.

Isps are looking for any way of making money. Let them do this and soon enough they will start to expand it so they can make money from it. Ads based on where you have been on the net anyone ?

craigj2k12 12-05-2011 18:23

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35234996)
Agreed.

Isps are looking for any way of making money. Let them do this and soon enough they will start to expand it so they can make money from it.

id rather pay more and have a higher quality service.

id go with be* for their quality but distance from the exchange blah blah blah, cant wait until they do FTTC in my area, especially with the new available speeds

Ignitionnet 12-05-2011 18:34

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
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Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35234959)
still, individual packets are being inspected

By an automated process, the irrelevant stuff discarded.

The shaping inspects as well. There is, officially, no privacy issue there, this all falls under the remit of network management exemption from interception regulation.

craigj2k12 12-05-2011 18:36

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35235014)
By an automated process, the irrelevant stuff discarded.

The shaping inspects as well. There is, officially, no privacy issue there, this all falls under the remit of network management exemption from interception regulation.

either way, its causing the packets to become less efficient

Ignitionnet 12-05-2011 18:43

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
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Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35235021)
either way, its causing the packets to become less efficient

Not really, additional latency once the flow has been added to the table and identified is in the microseconds, a single delay of a few milliseconds on the first packets in the flow.

Far bigger causes of delay on a large segmented network.

craigj2k12 12-05-2011 20:55

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
still could slow browsing and things on that line

Stuart 12-05-2011 21:00

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
There are few things you can do on the web that would be badly affected by a few milliseconds delay. Gaming is one.

BenJSmyth 13-05-2011 11:35

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
opendns.com is another offering and one I use and think is fab!

pjcoop 13-05-2011 12:58

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
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Originally Posted by BenJSmyth (Post 35235404)
opendns.com is another offering and one I use and think is fab!

(I'm the OP)..

Thanks for all the advice.... and the winner is......
openDNS.
Very impressed! took 5 mins to configure on my Linksys router and 5 mins to setup on the opendns website. Now everything on my network is protected - with just one admin point. Ad Free for 10USD a year is also good.
Thanks again.
Paul
;)

pip08456 13-05-2011 15:48

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35235003)
id rather pay more and have a higher quality service.

id go with be* for their quality but distance from the exchange blah blah blah, cant wait until they do FTTC in my area, especially with the new available speeds

I await their FTTC offering especially now that BT have announced a doubling of speed for it in 2012.

craigj2k12 13-05-2011 15:51

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35235588)
I await their FTTC offering especially now that BT have announced a doubling of speed for it in 2012.

distance from the exchange will then be overtaken by "distance from the cabinet"

either way, no one will match virgins headline speeds until ftth is rolled out

pip08456 13-05-2011 17:41

Re: 'HomeSafe' for VirginMedia??
 
VM concentrate on download headline. ATM I average 37 down and 8 up. Double that would be 74 down and 16 up which is a better ratio than VM's 100 down and 10 up. Add to that lower ping and less jitter.

Who's looking better.


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