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Yep. In fact I'm currently in the middle of an extended kicking square in the knackers for something I did a few weeks back.

Not really life or death and can't go into specifics but a decision was made to do something against the norm which despite being OK'd by the senior officer on scene at the time is now being questioned by some office dwellers. :mad:

Aside from that there are some shockers. The death of a woman who fell down a mineshaft in Ayrshire being the main example with the Police and Fire brigade having to stand about while she died as the fire brigade senior officer refused to let his men go down and save her.

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Sounds like a strong case for an armed response team and issueing live ammunition..

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did i ever say armed responce and live ammunition?

i said POLICE.

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How about an SAS training mission using a paramedic ambulance as cover?

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how about being sensible?

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It'll never catch on....

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Sounds totally sensible to me. The sort of oxygen thieves that would deliberately ambush a paramedic team deserve a timely termination IMHO.

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There was a recent incident where an SAS training mission was disrupted when some van thieves opened the rear doors of the vehicle to see what was inside, they found themselves facing SAS operatives.

Now, My suggestion is simple, the SAS do have to perform training missions, why not deploy them for some of these missions in higher crime areas, if criminals become afraid of attacking a vehicle because they may find themselves facing highly trained and armed personnel, well, that would just be a bonus for others who have to use that area wouldn't it.?

Still think it wasn't a sensible suggestion?

SAS missions aren't likely to be in friendly territories anyway, so high crime areas would just add to the realism, and if by pure chance criminals should end up with 'a good slap' from those SAS, it would be nothing more than coincidence, combined with helping clean up the streets despite a revolving door criminal court system.

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I think Paul Dacre (DM Editor) would have been in heaven if one (or both) had been asylum seekers as well.

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OK.. That was clearly a lack of communication. So, the Paramedic arrived, apparently not knowing that this had been arranged. He or she sees an open door. What are they supposed to do? They don't know there isn't a violent criminal in there.

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It must also be ppointed out that the paramedics did not know that a man was having a heart attack .A call had come in saying a man was having breathing problems/chest pains, but paramedic and fire crews get false alarm calls and then attacked by thugs just for kicks all the time unless it is chrystal clear upon arrival at the scene then a cautious approach would be needed .It is a hard position for anyone to be placed in and blaming the paramedics is well out of order in this case

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Use extreme caution and go in, which incidentally is what the paramedic did 16 mins later...

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yes ,with police support though

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No by himself

“He then took the decision to enter the property alone, while maintaining telephone contact with our control room.

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sorry i mis read the article :tu:.Do you agree that it would appear suspicious to a paramedic though especially if the paramedic has been a victim of set ups before .He did the next best thing imo he could have waited for the police support to arrive but chose to enter staying in contact with the control room .Thankfully these instances are very rare and rarely can the personnel be held at fault

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The next best thing would have been to use your eyes and ears, no signs of damage to doors, no noise, nothing suspicious through the windows etc which doesn't take 16 mins and it's not a case of holding them at fault, the situation has passed and nothing can be done for the man in question, if in their heart of hearts they feel they couldn't have done anymore then so be it.