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danielf 27-04-2011 13:56

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
What European law on cycle paths?

TheDaddy 27-04-2011 16:32

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35223266)
Some pavements are shared use.

Isn't that irrelevant, I thought the weaker party always has right of way, hence bikes have right of way over cars, cars over vans, vans over lorrys etc

Taf 27-04-2011 18:13

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
A friend of mine now carries a rolled-up brolley in all weathers after being hit once too often by cyclists. If one gets too close now he readies himself to thrust the brolley through one of their wheels, and makes it obvious that this is what he intends to do.


Cyclists now avoid him.

Tuftus 27-04-2011 20:33

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35223777)
A friend of mine now carries a rolled-up brolley in all weathers after being hit once too often by cyclists. If one gets too close now he readies himself to thrust the brolley through one of their wheels, and makes it obvious that this is what he intends to do.


Cyclists now avoid him.

Excellent!

LondonRoad 27-04-2011 21:26

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
I regulary commute by bike and I'm all in favour of there being some system of testing cyclists before they're allowed on the road. I'm not talking about the cycling proficiency test when you're 8 or 9.

The cyclists many of you refer to give the rest of cyclists a bad name. They're a danger to themselves and to other road users.

This is the time of year you see most of them appear. The weather improves, the waistline has expanded over the winter, the summer holiday in Benidorm is soon...... I'll get the bike out of the shed and endanger my own and other lives!!!

jb66 27-04-2011 21:36

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 35223955)
Excellent!

Untill he does it to the wrong person, then it will be wrapped round his neck.

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I consider myself a pedestrian when I'm a cyclist, I am powering the bike myself!

ZrByte 27-04-2011 21:39

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
Just FYI there are exceptions for cycling on pavements, Posties are one. I don't know if there are others. Or at least thats what we have been told though I notice there is no mention in Dereks link so I have my doubts now.
Though there are obvious exceptions and rules which we are supposed to follow e.g. right of way, maximum speed and maximum distance to destination etc.

Tuftus 27-04-2011 21:42

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35224054)
Untill he does it to the wrong person, then it will be wrapped round his neck.

Once it's been mangled by the spokes I do not think that will be an issue.

;)

danielf 27-04-2011 21:50

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 35224061)
Just FYI there are exceptions for cycling on pavements, Posties are one. I don't know if there are others. Or at least thats what we have been told though I notice there is no mention in Dereks link so I have my doubts now.
Though there are obvious exceptions and rules which we are supposed to follow e.g. right of way, maximum speed and maximum distance to destination etc.

What is the maximum speed on the pavement for a postie on a bike?

I'll admit to riding on the pavement occasionally (100 yards of pavement vs. 800 yards of 1-way system). Not much faster than 10 mph though, and more like 5mph when there are pedestrians around.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 35224062)
Once it's been mangled by the spokes I do not think that will be an issue.

;)

The missing fingers might be...

Tuftus 27-04-2011 21:55

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35224068)

The missing fingers might be...

You are holding on too long if you have that issue... :D

danielf 27-04-2011 21:58

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 35224070)
You are holding on too long if you have that issue... :D

I think you're more likely to have the thing thrown in your face as the spokes spit it out. ;)

Tuftus 27-04-2011 22:01

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35224073)
I think you're more likely to have the thing thrown in your face as the spokes spit it out. ;)

It never happens like that in the movies though? :p:

ZrByte 27-04-2011 22:12

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35224068)
What is the maximum speed on the pavement for a postie on a bike?

I'll admit to riding on the pavement occasionally (100 yards of pavement vs. 800 yards of 1-way system). Not much faster than 10 mph though, and more like 5mph when there are pedestrians around.

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The missing fingers might be...

Never been given an actual number for the speed limit but i suppose thats because we dont have speedometers on the bikes. Have always just been told to be sensible and use our judgement.

Stuart 27-04-2011 23:47

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35223382)
Ah, obnoxious & dangerous cyclists...

There have been plenty of times I've seen cyclists shoot through red lights at pedestrian crossings (whether clear of pedestrians or not), and plenty of times I've seen cyclists cut people up (including myself) on pedestrian-only pavements.

Reminds me of one I saw the other day. He was approaching a red light. He *could* have stopped safely, but didn't. Instead, he cycled through the red light, only avoiding being hit by a VW Golf thanks to the quick reactions of the Golf driver, and even that was only by a few centimetres.

As for cycle lanes, well, after Ken Livingstone's push to get people cycling, we have two cycle sheds (each with room for 3 cycles), neither of which has ever seen a cycle AFAIK, on one of our main roads. We also have (on another main road), a cycle lane at the edge of the road, painted green leading to a cycle priority "box" (I don't know what they are called, but they allow cyclists to sit between the cars and the lights at traffic lights), which only seems to serve the function of confusing car drivers.

Tezcatlipoca 28-04-2011 02:07

Re: Who's right of way on the pavement ?
 
Another common occurrence in Cambridge (in addition to many cyclists jumping red lights, or cycling on pavements) is to cycle with no lights when it's dark... dangerous for themselves *and* for others (especially combined with the red light jumping or the pavement cycling).


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