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timberheadverde 20-04-2011 15:41

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
A movie in 8 seconds..... just wow

haydnwalker 20-04-2011 16:05

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35217793)
Supply a server??

Would be worth it just going for a 6 month trial and keeping the server, some of which can easily be 10k+ in cost lol

It wouldn't be a server they supply... just a Cisco (or similar) 10GbE capable router :) Which would then interconnect with the businesses current LAN switches and from then (probably) into a proxy etc :)

weesteev 20-04-2011 16:19

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35217793)
Supply a server??

Where did I say they would supply a server?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35217790)
perhaps they should also trial peering upgrades and uncongested ubr ports :)

I can see the attempt at humour but what has this to do with a technical trial? Do you believe that this type of service would be rolled out on the existing network overlay with no concern as to core upgrades?

Chrysalis 20-04-2011 16:28

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weesteev (Post 35217828)
Where did I say they would supply a server?

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I can see the attempt at humour but what has this to do with a technical trial? Do you believe that this type of service would be rolled out on the existing network overlay with no concern as to core upgrades?

I have heard no core upgrades were done for the 100mbit and upload uplifts hence the introduction of shaping. So answer is yes.

weesteev 20-04-2011 16:30

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
Apart from the upgrades from 1gig to 10gig transit completed within the last 2 years to support the transition to Docsis 3.0? Just because you didn't hear doesn't mean it didn't happen

;)

DABhand 20-04-2011 16:40

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weesteev (Post 35217828)
Where did I say they would supply a server?[COLOR="Silver"]

It was a joke, hence the lol at the end of post :)

General Maximus 23-04-2011 19:46

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35217403)
What would the AUP or download limits, or peak time throttleing policies look like?


What they advertise and what they deliver are two completely different things. Oops, you have just checked an email and hit the stm, your up to 1.5gbit connection is now throttled to 10mbit for the rest of the day so you do not have a detrimental impact on your fellow users.

DABhand 23-04-2011 20:38

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
Surely they wouldn't dare throttle a business line... that would be bad.

Especially if they are getting businesses to pay through the nose for it, I think 1GB is what £500+ at the moment? I don't think they have traffic management.

Hugh 23-04-2011 20:49

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
I think you will find it will be considerably more than £500 per month (as would all/most other suppliers)....

TheDon 25-04-2011 01:03

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35220481)
Surely they wouldn't dare throttle a business line... that would be bad.

Especially if they are getting businesses to pay through the nose for it, I think 1GB is what £500+ at the moment? I don't think they have traffic management.

£25k per annum, so just over £2k a month.

DABhand 25-04-2011 09:57

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
Ouch £2k lol

Makes it even worse if they ended up throttling them >.<

Robertus 25-04-2011 14:10

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35217793)
Supply a server??

Would be worth it just going for a 6 month trial and keeping the server, some of which can easily be 10k+ in cost lol

Huh?

nutellajunkie 24-07-2011 21:20

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
the only thing VirginMedia is able to sustain, is the putrid nonosense they come up with month in month out..

Im still waiting on this and that. Now they go and do this..

Cool, I cant wait to see this fine mess they get into..

Or like usual, we will all forget about it, until next time.

PS, technically, over current networks... LMAO!!! what site have you been on, even of the late, that is capable of delivering that, even locally? What is the UK Backbone capable of delivering at peak times?.. Aye, exactly!

Ignitionnet 24-07-2011 21:46

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
The UK has one of the highest capacity fibre networks in the world. Virgin's network can certainly support 1.5Gbps, not masses of them without contention but certainly some.

No-one is talking about a single website that will deliver 1.5Gbps although some content delivery networks do indeed have servers with 10GbE connectivity.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35221267)
£25k per annum, so just over £2k a month.

If you can get 1Gbps internet access for £25k per annum please point me to this service, the last quote I got was rather closer to that level per month than per year. About £18k + VAT.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by weesteev (Post 35217841)
Apart from the upgrades from 1gig to 10gig transit completed within the last 2 years to support the transition to Docsis 3.0? Just because you didn't hear doesn't mean it didn't happen

;)

The shaping hardware was installed at transit points to reduce load and try and avoid higher costs on external bandwidth when 100Mb went live.

Sky have 100Gbps to LINX alone, Talk Talk 120Gbps, VM have 80Gbps which is quite odd given the higher traffic load. Even UPC Broadband who don't even have a UK presence have 60Gbps there.

VM do skimp on transit and peering. They carry the bare minimum the result being constant manual intervention to try and make the most of the scarce resource.

How much did the total transit and peering capacity go up during that period? All well and good saying that transits went from 1Gbps to 10Gbps but you and I both know there is no way that VM increased capacity 10-fold. They had to increase it somewhat given they were breaking SLAs on some transits by allowing them to saturate :)

TheDon 26-07-2011 12:12

Re: Leading the superfast broadband revolution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35278046)
If you can get 1Gbps internet access for £25k per annum please point me to this service, the last quote I got was rather closer to that level per month than per year. About £18k + VAT.

That's the cost that was widely reported for VM's Big Red Internet.


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