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TheDon 15-04-2011 22:26

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 
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Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35213784)
Sweden and Japan must be doing something right if it is able to have a stable and excellent broadband service :P Hopefully other providers will learn from them :P

It's called having higher population densities and laxer planning rules.
Don't kid yourself into thinking the rural areas in those countries have it any better than we do. You still need to live in a city for high speed services.

They can also string their cables up on poles which is far far cheaper, makes rolling out a network cost a fraction of what it does over here.

Ignitionnet 16-04-2011 00:40

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 
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Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35213784)
Interesting that we need the Japanese to "fix" our broadband out from the dark ages and into the present.

Sweden and Japan must be doing something right if it is able to have a stable and excellent broadband service :P Hopefully other providers will learn from them :P

In Sweden's case spending lots of that >50% of GDP they take in tax on municipally owned fibre. Japan have better demographics and pole mounted fibre. I wouldn't have any problem with pole mounted fibre but YMMV.

http://www.dannychoo.com/post/en/165...+Internet.html

DABhand 16-04-2011 01:22

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 
£300 a month for 1Gbs dedicated. Nice.

This chappy is getting 100mb for close to £8 a month then about £40 after 1 year. Not bad.

Jayster 16-04-2011 15:11

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 
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Originally Posted by DABhand (Post 35214038)
£300 a month for 1Gbs dedicated. Nice.

This chappy is getting 100mb for close to £8 a month then about £40 after 1 year. Not bad.

You forgot to mention the upload.

craigj2k12 16-04-2011 16:03

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35214016)
In Sweden's case spending lots of that >50% of GDP they take in tax on municipally owned fibre. Japan have better demographics and pole mounted fibre. I wouldn't have any problem with pole mounted fibre but YMMV.

http://www.dannychoo.com/post/en/165...+Internet.html

yeah but that looks disgusting, looks like the mess from behind my telly is floating in the street

deed02392 19-04-2011 11:37

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 
Agreed, that is a shocking price to pay for slightly faster broadband. It's not even necessary. I like how everyone is more in touch with technology to the extent they actually feel embarrassed to be behind the times (antennae's on their roofs!) but I'm more than happy to be behind by a few years if it means we get it put in the ground.

craigj2k12 19-04-2011 16:38

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 
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Originally Posted by deed02392 (Post 35216533)
Agreed, that is a shocking price to pay for slightly faster broadband. It's not even necessary. I like how everyone is more in touch with technology to the extent they actually feel embarrassed to be behind the times (antennae's on their roofs!) but I'm more than happy to be behind by a few years if it means we get it put in the ground.

if we had the awesome tech japan had, for instance the FTTH on the picture, but instead it was below ground, it would be pretty awesome

Ignitionnet 19-04-2011 16:48

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 
Incredibly expensive too - not conducive with the UK market being largely people who resent paying very much for broadbandings.

watzizname 19-04-2011 21:53

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35214016)
In Sweden's case spending lots of that >50% of GDP they take in tax on municipally owned fibre. Japan have better demographics and pole mounted fibre. I wouldn't have any problem with pole mounted fibre but YMMV.

http://www.dannychoo.com/post/en/165...+Internet.html

I wouldn't have a problem with it either, provided the ISP's utilizing this method actually passed on the savings to their customers.

Instead, i believe they'd just see it as an opportunity to maximize their profits.. Hell, the penny pinchers at VM would probably introduce a pole charge :rolleyes:

Anyone remember the old Rediffusion cable system?

Ignitionnet 19-04-2011 22:20

Re: Virgin Media FTTP Via Fujitsu Fibre Network
 
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Originally Posted by watzizname (Post 35217119)
I wouldn't have a problem with it either, provided the ISP's utilizing this method actually passed on the savings to their customers.

Instead, i believe they'd just see it as an opportunity to maximize their profits.. Hell, the penny pinchers at VM would probably introduce a pole charge :rolleyes:

Anyone remember the old Rediffusion cable system?

Pass on what savings?

This isn't about being able to pass on any savings, it merely reduces the cost of rolling out fibre from impossibly expensive to just very expensive.

It's how cheap the services are here that makes the maths so difficult for operators.


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