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Tezcatlipoca

22-03-2011 22:07

Re: Home Plugs

I've just set up some Netgear HomePlugs for Mrs D.

Not impressed with the software or the "manual", but it's all up & running now. She went for cheapo HomePlug v1 (85Mbps) rather than HomePlug AV (200Mbps).

danielf

22-03-2011 22:09

Re: Home Plugs

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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35197855)

I hope you're not expecting 85Mbps. 15 to 20 Mbps seems to be about the norm for those.

Tezcatlipoca

22-03-2011 22:26

Re: Home Plugs

Nah, that's fine for what she wants to use it for.

Waldo Pepper

23-03-2011 18:30

Re: Home Plugs

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Originally Posted by pabscars (Post 35197520)

To the OP, I,m sure I read somewhere that PS3's don't like complicated passphrase's, might be worth a punt before you hand over any hard earned.

This has to be "snake oil" or rubbish. The passphrase is hashed to a random(ish) number and there is no reason why this (unless coded by a three year old) would make any difference.

---------- Post added at 18:30 ---------- Previous post was at 18:27 ----------

I have used a pair of Develo plugs (85Mbit ones) from Maplin (circa Â£65) for a few years now without a problem.. other than they get quite hot.

pabscars

23-03-2011 21:10

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Originally Posted by Waldo Pepper (Post 35198362)

This has to be "snake oil" or rubbish. The passphrase is hashed to a random(ish) number and there is no reason why this (unless coded by a three year old) would make any difference.

---------- Post added at 18:30 ---------- Previous post was at 18:27 ----------

I have used a pair of Develo plugs (85Mbit ones) from Maplin (circa Â£65) for a few years now without a problem.. other than they get quite hot.

It may be old news now but I new I'd read somewhere that the PS3 were possibly a bit sensitive to some types of security.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/netwo...nk-router.html

Maybe it doesnt effect newer consoles I dunno, personally I never use wireless where possible and always recommend against it.

At the end of the day I was just trying to offer a little help

dragon

23-03-2011 22:24

Re: Home Plugs

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Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35197119)

I think the wireless on my PS3 is Fubared as you can see from the speed tests below, both PC and PS3 are in same room and on same wireless network.

So I was thinking about getting some Home Plugs.
Where the router is situated there is only one wall socket. From this I have a 4 way plugged in which has a DECT phone, Home Hub and modem. Can I plug a home plug into the spare socket on the 4 way and what sort of speed could i expect?

How are you speed testing the PS3

If it's via the network diagnostics option take it with a pinch of salt as it's often woefully inaccurate.

I think the PSN gets somewhat congested during peak time as downloads from it tend to be rather slow compared to say a download on your PC.

You can get Powerline adapters with a pass-through socket in.

Comtrends latest ones definitely a pass through power socket, but they use UPA instead of homeplug.

Pretty sure I've seen some other homeplug adaptors with power pass through as well, might have been some Ebuyer own brand ones or somewhere like that.

Ignitionnet

17-04-2011 18:16

Re: Home Plugs

Further to this does anyone have experience of the 'gigabit' homeplugs?

I'm looking for something that'll manage 100Mbps+ between floors if at all possible.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_...gabit+homeplug

Apparently these are very hit and miss.

TheNorm

17-04-2011 18:34

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35215365)

Further to this does anyone have experience of the 'gigabit' homeplugs?....

How about these? I've not tried them, but this company has very good customer service:

http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-gig-index.htm

Ignitionnet

17-04-2011 18:54

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Saw those, odd as it may seem a bit concerned by how cheap they are and can't find any tests online of their performance.

TheNorm

17-04-2011 19:44

Re: Home Plugs

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35215391)

... can't find any tests online of their performance.

Reviews are linked on the bottom half of this page: http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-gig-pl-1000m.htm

Ignitionnet

17-04-2011 19:59

Re: Home Plugs

Yeah I read a couple of reviews from elsewhere and the results are, well, disturbing.

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In the same room, these adapters proved to be the fastest we've seen to date, delivering an average speed of 45Mbps, which is impressive though clearly a long way from their theoretical maximum. The blue light came on, indicating that the devices were operating at an excellent speed, with plenty of bandwidth to play with.

Across the house was a different story – they were actually slower than some of the 200Mbps rivals we had tested, at just over 23Mbps. It's entirely possible that this situation would be improved if we had been able to put bridging units between the two distant sockets, but we didn't have the equipment to prove this.

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As with most similar devices, real speeds will not match the advertised speeds - we achieved a top sustained speed of 92Mbits/sec. Speeds can also be significantly affected by electrical interference from appliances and the quality of mains wiring, however.

45 - 92Mbps in the same room. I can probably push more out of putting a wireless repeater on the stairs. :(

I understand about PHY speeds, etc, but 92Mbps out of 1000Mbps, best case?

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