Re: £3.00 Tivo Charge
 

I personally don't disagree with the charge even though I would prefer it to be zero.

But if you look at premium ESPN sports included free with the XL pack, you can see why some people object to the charge. Now, I suspect that having free ESPN in XL brings in more customers, so the cost to VM of ESPN is more than covered by the extra revenue, making free ESPN a good decision, even for non sports fans.

Could the same happen with tivo? If it's so good that it brings in new customers and extra revenue, could the 3 pounds be dropped or reduced becuse of the extra reenue? I don't know, but that sort of thing leaves room for discussion making the 3 pound charge not just a black and white situation.

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I would just like to say that I think that the £3 charge for TIVO is well worth it as you get a lot more than the V+. It is a lot more slick and also the UI is a lot better to navigate.

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We'll see remember it was quite popular in the US until recently , that may have something to do with the subs they charge , and the majority realising a basic PVR is enough.

The results as I type have 56.45% saying subs are high enough which is a high percentage for a forum full of tech fanatics.

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At the current rate of rollout, I wonder if a significant number of those 100,000 customers will have lost interest in TiVO by the time an installation date becomes available, 4+ months after registration and without lottery invites in some cases.

As has been said here on occasions, its only a PVR. A bloodly good one, but still, a PVR.

For £3 extra per month, I'd expect nothing less.

Re: £3.00 Tivo Charge
 

I haven't got TiVo, but from what I have read and heard you do seem to have a valid point that you do get a lot more than the V+. However, although this is clearly their flagship STB, the initial outlay of £149 should be all that is required from the customer. I believe it would be a much more viable 'weapon' against Sky if it didn't carry this extra monthly charge.

As muppetman mentions when he made that post more than 56% believe they pay enough already and that is in a forum of tech fanatics. I would be surprised if much of the general joe public would be willing to fork out the monthly fee as well as the initial outlay.

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Excellent point re Joe public , especially when you consider there's a free PVR to be had from BT Vision and Sky.

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Better than the £10 a month they wanted for the TV-Drive!

Re: £3.00 Tivo Charge
 

Virgin are no better than other companies in the respect that they will take us for every penny they can get from us.

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Don't forget they still charge non XL customers £5 a month for V+, they say it isn't 'cost effective' not to!

Re: £3.00 Tivo Charge
 

That is a very valid point! I understand what you mean in regards to Joe public and why will they need to pay the £3 charge, So they maybe looking in to this ( As it has been stated they are looking at lower HDD drives in the boxes ) and also moving all customers over to TIVO.
Here is what I think may happen:
1TB BOX = £3PM ( with all the bells and whistles )
500GB BOX = £2PM ( with some of the above )
250GB BOX = £1PM ( with no bells just whistles )
NO HDD = £0 ( with just the UI )

Just a thought?

Re: £3.00 Tivo Charge
 

I can't see why smaller HDD would mean a lower cost , I can understand maybe a free non PVR TiVo but I think all TIVO PVR will incur the 3.00 charge and lower tier subscribers may need to pay more.

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What I meant was for less of the functionality E.G APPS,SUGGESTIONS E.T.C on the lower HDD sizes and if they wanted the lower HDD and all the functionality pay more PM. ( HOPE THIS MAKES IT CLEAR OR AM I JUST MAKING IT WORSE? )

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It will be a pricey outlay for new customers at 199 for a box they don't own and 40.00 install plus 3.00 a month. That's 275.00 without your XL sub in year 1.

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But a 1TB Sky HD box is 249; fairly similar pricing. Do sky charge an install fee for new customers? If so, tivo is cheaper.

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You are correct it is, the one main difference is with Sky you own the box and if you cancel it will still work with 240 FTA satellite channels and a few HD channels.