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Peter_ 06-03-2011 14:34

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35188030)
I'm convinced a fair few of these people who do this are techie types who do it not so much so they avoid payment, rather that they do it because they think they can. Like sticking two fingers up to the system. Anyone suggesting it's like the old days when you just got a cheapo box and connected it up is wrong.

And anyway haven't a lot of people found they have had the service shut down?, surely it can't be rocket science to trace the servers, obviously not given the reports. And they have to pay for access to those servers too, they must be mad in my opinion.

I have noticed Sky and other broadcasters are even flashing up a serial number on screen now to catch out some of the online streams.

It will probably go on but it's no where near as widepsread as when VM used their 'strong as selloptape' encryption!

The game will be up eventually, I read one system has even stopped the sharing route now so well done to them, i'm sure they will all follow.

The ones using servers are the targets as the people using them are of no use when trying to close them down, the release of the Nagra3 cards has killed most of the illegal users connections so I find it very funny that people are still bidding on set boxes that will never work or can never to added to their accounts, they think like SKY you can buy a box from anywhere and use it.

robbo71 06-03-2011 14:58

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
Interestingly,there does seem to be some unscrambled channels transmitted. I am able to watch some channels (BBC1, BBC2, ITV1,Ch4 and Ch5 plus others) with the card removed.

Also, DVB-C is a documented standard and tuners for it are readily available to purchase perfectly legally.

So, with a live feed, what the OP wants to do should be possible.

(Cannot try myself, as I only have official subscribed VM equipment)

Peter_ 06-03-2011 15:00

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
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Originally Posted by robbo71 (Post 35188066)
Interestingly,there does seem to be some unscrambled channels transmitted. I am able to watch some channels (BBC1, BBC2, ITV1,Ch4 and Ch5 plus others) with the card removed.

Also, DVB-C is a documented standard and tuners for it are readily available to purchase perfectly legally.

So, with a live feed, what the OP wants to do should be possible.

(Cannot try myself, as I only have official subscribed VM equipment)

They are the only channels you can get but again you still need the box for them to work as the have been threads and posts asking if they can connect to the outlet.

mersey70 06-03-2011 15:26

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo71 (Post 35188066)
Interestingly,there does seem to be some unscrambled channels transmitted. I am able to watch some channels (BBC1, BBC2, ITV1,Ch4 and Ch5 plus others) with the card removed.

Also, DVB-C is a documented standard and tuners for it are readily available to purchase perfectly legally.

So, with a live feed, what the OP wants to do should be possible.

(Cannot try myself, as I only have official subscribed VM equipment)

CNBC is clear too I think.

It hardly seems worthwhile though to go to the trouble of using a DVB-C PC Card, I can sort of understand people using their STB output to connect to a PC to record stuff but as has been pointed out virtually everything of interest is securely encrypted.

Each to their own though.

robbo71 06-03-2011 15:30

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
There are areas where DVB-T reception is difficult or there is no aerial, the same goes for satellite, so I suppose anything is better than nothing. For years we all just had channels 1 to 4/5 on analogue terrestrial, and were happy with it, many still are.

Sirius 06-03-2011 16:03

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo71 (Post 35187973)
Actually, it did not. There is some way to go yet..



Also the OP was asking about FTA channels, which I presume means those that are unscrambled.

Please point me to where Cable have given FTA digital channels to users in the past via a PC card. ???, As for his answer it was not what he was really after and we all know that ;)

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Originally Posted by robbo71 (Post 35187990)
I suggest that you do a little more research then, if that is what you believe.

Its still stopped most of the spoon fed morons that get there boxes down the pub or at the computer fair. Plus there has been 2 servers killed and i am sure they will be another one soon ;)

Ignitionnet 06-03-2011 16:15

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
As a reminder to those considering doing this while these same cards, etc, work fine throughout the world and probably have RF isolation as good as VM's own hardware when they are connected to the Virgin Media network they apparently endanger service for everyone in your local area, raise the blood pressure of the staff on this forum and a kitten dies.

Think of the NHS, think of the kittens.

Peter_ 06-03-2011 16:18

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35188106)
think of the kittens.

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Sirius 06-03-2011 16:19

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35188106)
As a reminder to those considering doing this while these same cards, etc, work fine throughout the world and probably have RF isolation as good as VM's own hardware when they are connected to the Virgin Media network they apparently endanger service for everyone in your local area, raise the blood pressure of the staff on this forum and a kitten dies.

Think of the NHS, think of the kittens.

They are not authorised by VM its as simple as that, So there is no need for emotive Kitten responses to try and score points at the expense of others :). Bet you would not be happy if your customers were messing with your network kit when they should not be or are stealing service that they should pay for. ???

jtaylor06 06-03-2011 16:21

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35188109)

Cute

Digital Fanatic 06-03-2011 16:29

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
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Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35188112)
Cute

I want the ginger one :)

Peter_ 06-03-2011 16:41

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35188115)
I want the ginger one :)


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Digital Fanatic 06-03-2011 16:42

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
hahaha :D

robbo71 06-03-2011 16:58

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35188092)
Please point me to where Cable have given FTA digital channels to users in the past via a PC card. ???, As for his answer it was not what he was really after and we all know that ;)

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Its still stopped most of the spoon fed morons that get there boxes down the pub or at the computer fair. Plus there has been 2 servers killed and i am sure they will be another one soon ;)

For a start, vm are leaving live feeds to unsubscribed properties, that constitutes being given I think.

Also we do not know what the op was after, but it appears that he was just after the unscrambled channels reading the 'other' posts.

As I understand it, morons can buy plug and play boxes, just as they could before, they just work differently of course.

As for the servers, we shall see won't we.it will be a challenge I think though.

Peter_ 06-03-2011 17:00

Re: VM Tv Transponders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo71 (Post 35188139)
For a start, vm are leaving live feeds to unsubscribed properties, that constitutes being given I think.

Try connecting a box up and it will not work possibly it may give you the 5 channels that is all and all you need is for a new customer to sign up and they remove your connection in the cabinet.


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