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Peter_ 23-02-2011 11:04
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Originally Posted by Marcus125 (Post 35180463)
Seriously? Have never read any of my previous posts?:D
You are aware that he has one of the new state of the art TiVo boxes so knows what he is talking about.;)

Marcus125 23-02-2011 11:08
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LOL My rep is at minus 1 million* not doing to bad.








* Figure quoted my not represent actual rep score.

Hugh 23-02-2011 11:10
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Seems more like a target than a score.....:D

Marcus125 23-02-2011 11:10
Re: TIVO-Do you think it will win over Sky subscribers?
 
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35180465)
You are aware that he has one of the new state of the art TiVo boxes so knows what he is talking about.;)
Yes I know but he said my previous comment was "the most preposterous thing he had ever read"

I was saying in my time here I've have typed far more preposterous comments in some peoples eye.

Hugh 23-02-2011 11:11
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Perhaps the preposterousness was in the fact that your opinion was uninformed by actual knowledge of the new Tivo box?

muppetman11 23-02-2011 11:18
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If everybody joined Sky we would all be paying subs a lot higher than now , I say thank god for competition.

Cozzy 23-02-2011 11:18
Re: TIVO-Do you think it will win over Sky subscribers?
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35180475)
Perhaps the preposterousness was in the fact that your opinion was uninformed by actual knowledge of the new Tivo box?
have to say there is actually a lack of 'real customers' on here praising the tivo with actual screen shots and video footage all we are getting is ' its good isnt it' kind of comments ... one or two but thats hardly a lot to base any kind of concusses on and of course those who do have tivo will hardly complain its rubbish

the whole tivo experience needs several truly independent reviews so potential customers can judge for themselves like they do with other hardware

Peter_ 23-02-2011 11:25
Re: TIVO-Do you think it will win over Sky subscribers?
 
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Originally Posted by Marcus125 (Post 35180473)
Yes I know but he said my previous comment was "the most preposterous thing he had ever read"

I was saying in my time here I've have typed far more preposterous comments in some peoples eye.
You are trying to compare a TiVo S1 though to the very latest TiVo that Virginmedia supply the is no comparison, that is like trying to compare a old Skoda 120 to a Skoda Superb they are completely different machines even though they have the same badge.

Rattus 23-02-2011 11:50
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35180434)
I think that most people will decide on their individual circumstances, and no "fanboyism" on either side is like to change many peoples views.

However, Marcus, I am slightly surprised you feel able to make a sweeping statement like without any supporting commentary - if it is true, Tivo would be the only technology company in the world to do so.......
To be fair how has TIVO significantly changed in 10 years? Other than to actually stop making hardware (step backwards)?

The software does pretty much exactly the same now as it did then, granted there is new stuff like mobile interaction (but that's not really a TIVO specific thing).

To answer the OP, no i don't think people will leave in droves to sign up for a tivo from sky. I'd imagine the biggest market might be recent digital TV converts who have had analogue turned off. Maybe they might be tempted as they've not had a PVR before, but for them i can't see them paying the £200 quid or an XL sub.

Digital Fanatic 23-02-2011 11:52
Re: TIVO-Do you think it will win over Sky subscribers?
 
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Originally Posted by Marcus125 (Post 35180296)
So VM users do you think Tivo will get people to leave Sky and join VirginMedia?

My view? Well I'm glad you asked.

I have had Skytv for many many years and have always been happy with my service. I had a Sky Tivo and a S1 Tivo which I thought were fantastic but stopped using along time ago.

When I heard VM were bringing a new Tivo I decided I wanted to be part of it so joined VM. Unfortunately this didnt work how I had planned. VM want over £100 plus a subscription fee for Tivo.

Ok the price may of been ok 10 years ago but its 2011 and Tivo is just not pushing any boundries. What has changed since I stopped using Tivo many years ago? Nothing? Oh the EPG is now red. Thats not enough.
I think and this is not "fanboyisim" or anything like that, that Sky users who join VM for Tivo will be gone back to Sky first chance they get. VM Should really listen to what I'm saying.

I find it hard to believe in 10 years Tivo have stood still in development but thats how it seems. New users in 2011 will not be impressed with the current Tivo offering the way we were in 10 years ago.

Don't turn this thread into a personal attack on me. Read it, give it thought, then reply.
That is classic! hahahahahaha

are you now that desperate to rubbish something you haven't even used, that you resort to this? hahahahahahaha

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/06/24.gif

Pathetic!


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Hugh 23-02-2011 11:53
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Let's not get personal.....

Rattus 23-02-2011 12:01
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I do think some people are getting totally sucked in to the VM hype.

TIVO is a new PVR, nothing more. Let's not pretend it's going to change the way people watch TV the way PVRs did originally with linear TV.

Things like mobile control, youtube and ordering Pizzas, and actually recording the right series are not going to change the world as we know it.

I'm yet to see one single thing that the TIVO does that makes me go, wow that's cool.

Yes it has stuff i want (and need) like a bigger hard drive. But it a bit emperors new cloths to me, the longer the launch has dragged on the less i see that impresses.

Perhaps we need a "What is the most impressive thing about TIVO" thread so people with it can pick the one thing they thing makes TIVO a must have for them.

Digital Fanatic 23-02-2011 12:14
Re: TIVO-Do you think it will win over Sky subscribers?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35180530)
I do think some people are getting totally sucked in to the VM hype.

TIVO is a new PVR, nothing more. Let's not pretend it's going to change the way people watch TV the way PVRs did originally with linear TV.

Things like mobile control, youtube and ordering Pizzas, and actually recording the right series are not going to change the world as we know it.

I'm yet to see one single thing that the TIVO does that makes me go, wow that's cool.

Yes it has stuff i want (and need) like a bigger hard drive. But it a bit emperors new cloths to me, the longer the launch has dragged on the less i see that impresses.

Perhaps we need a "What is the most impressive thing about TIVO" thread so people with it can pick the one thing they thing makes TIVO a must have for them.
people said that about HD

alwaysabear 23-02-2011 12:15
Re: TIVO-Do you think it will win over Sky subscribers?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35180530)
I do think some people are getting totally sucked in to the VM hype.

TIVO is a new PVR, nothing more. Let's not pretend it's going to change the way people watch TV the way PVRs did originally with linear TV.

Things like mobile control, youtube and ordering Pizzas, and actually recording the right series are not going to change the world as we know it.

I'm yet to see one single thing that the TIVO does that makes me go, wow that's cool.

Yes it has stuff i want (and need) like a bigger hard drive. But it a bit emperors new cloths to me, the longer the launch has dragged on the less i see that impresses.

Perhaps we need a "What is the most impressive thing about TIVO" thread so people with it can pick the one thing they thing makes TIVO a must have for them.
When it is released to the public in April we will possibly get an unbiased review. It would be nice if it were done by Cnet, Trusted reviews or the like. I shall wait until then and I guess others will as well.

pauldavies83 23-02-2011 12:21
Re: TIVO-Do you think it will win over Sky subscribers?
 
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Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35180518)
To be fair how has TIVO significantly changed in 10 years? Other than to actually stop making hardware (step backwards)?

The software does pretty much exactly the same now as it did then, granted there is new stuff like mobile interaction (but that's not really a TIVO specific thing).
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35180530)
I do think some people are getting totally sucked in to the VM hype.

TIVO is a new PVR, nothing more. Let's not pretend it's going to change the way people watch TV the way PVRs did originally with linear TV.
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Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35180530)
Things like mobile control, youtube and ordering Pizzas, and actually recording the right series are not going to change the world as we know it.
100% spot on. TiVo's big unique features in software (wishlists, season pass, suggestions) have not changed in 10 years - only the hardware has.

Ordering pizza's and the like via the TV has been done and died (on cable and Sky) - very few use this kind of thing. Why? It's easier to pick up the phone or the internet connected computer.

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Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35180530)
Yes it has stuff i want (and need) like a bigger hard drive. But it a bit emperors new cloths to me, the longer the launch has dragged on the less i see that impresses.
Bigger hard drive could easily go into refurbished V+ boxes, but Virgin have decided against this for years. Why is anyone's guess.

So my 2 cents is, no, TiVo alone will not entice subscribers from Sky.

Broadband speeds, pricing and on-demand might. But that was also the case before TiVo appeared.

A sweeping generalisation I know, but your average man in the street wants to turn their TV on and watch it - not play about with fancy menus and apps.

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35180541)
people said that about HD
According to this, people still are saying that about HD...

http://www.itproportal.com/2010/12/0...tv-says-ofcom/

59% of households have a HD-ready set, but only 13% actually have access to a HD source.


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