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Which is why the NHS is doomed..A public institution like the NHS needs someone who has medical knowledge,strong opinions,high standards,excellent logistics skills and the ruthlessness to impose their will.

In other words we need Florence Nightingale.;)

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Heartlands in Brum was mentioned in the report. that really is a bad hospital. it's mainly Asians that are hospitalised in it. some of the staff really are useless at their job.
there's people that actually refuse to be taken there by ambulance. they used to want to go to the old Selly Oak, but now the new QE.

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Can you imagine trying to get that past all the layers of middle management?

My partner trained as a nurse back in the days when you trained in-house and actually learned from the senior nursing staff. The first year was basically learning how to clean !!

But also the ethos and caring principles were carried across along with the actual nursing skills. I don't believe any university training can emulate that.

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Oh I thought you meant public healthcare itself wasn't working. My bad. I am in favour of finding other ways but countries like France pay more for their healthcare.

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snip...

Whilst I agree with your sentiments about the NHS and then some,I would also call to attention the fact that Germans pay about 14-17 percent of their gross wages for health care alone.That's a lot of money... just saying. :)

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Which is fine if we get the service that we paid for. What we get is massive tax to pay for a disinterested health service and some of us are now told Thousands more will have to sell homes for elderly care when they were promised cradle to grave care.....and paid for it. F'kin disgusting.

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but,but that's the governments money,not mine! :confused: ;)

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Depends. While the country as a whole may pay more the costs are spread more evenly throughout the populace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_...th_care_system

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The NHS has been in decline for years, no matter what government runs this country, a major problem with it, is that there are two many governors and not enough workers, we have much wastage in the service, the way it treats us is appalling

When my mother was seriously ill many years ago, she was left along in the corridor to join a queue, to get into the next available room to see the doctor who was on his own and that was WMUH in Isleworth.

She died in the same hospital three years later, what we need is a MATRON who will control the wards, we need a manager of the hospital who will put hospitals first, as at the moment it is 'we promise this and that' from different governments, we have to ban patients coming in from various countries using our HS as though it was a luxury.