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Chris 09-02-2011 10:00

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I enjoyed this again last night. There were definite echoes of BSG in one or two places ... enough to make me start comparing the two, such as noticing that the camerawork on Outcasts isn't shaky like BSG. :D Julius Berger is shaping up as some sort of Gaius Baltar figure.

They have gone for a technique that was very heavily used in JJ Abrams' Star Trek - lots of bright light straight into the lens. I'm not sure I like it very much but at least it shows the BBC is prepared to consider the American approach of giving big-budget drama a distinctive style and feel rather than just planting the camera and making it all about the performances.

I think I would have liked it if they had kept the ACs a bit more mysterious for a bit longer, rather than explaining exactly who they are and what they want in part 2, but on the other hand they have given themselves an awful lot to establish ... if this were a US series they would be planning for 20+ eps, whereas this is following a typical British approach and going for 6-8.

Mick Fisher 09-02-2011 11:10

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I still think it's disappointing.

A worn out cardboard scenario starring cardboard characters. :(

Glad to hear others are enjoying it though.

Stuart 09-02-2011 13:11

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35170515)
I enjoyed this again last night. There were definite echoes of BSG in one or two places ... enough to make me start comparing the two, such as noticing that the camerawork on Outcasts isn't shaky like BSG. :D Julius Berger is shaping up as some sort of Gaius Baltar figure.

That shaky camera thing is supposed to be atmospheric. It's meant to make you feel like you are in the scene. It's never felt that way to me though. All it did in my case was to irritate me.

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They have gone for a technique that was very heavily used in JJ Abrams' Star Trek - lots of bright light straight into the lens. I'm not sure I like it very much but at least it shows the BBC is prepared to consider the American approach of giving big-budget drama a distinctive style and feel rather than just planting the camera and making it all about the performances.
TBH, it didn't look big budget to me. I don't know if the series was big budget (although Kudos TV, who produced it, do have a reputation for producing big budget shows). I have to admit, I don't think if something is small budget, or even if it looks cheap, that it is necessarily bad. A good story costs very little. Most of the classic series Doctor Who stories looked cheap, but there were some absolutely brilliant ones. Sadly, the story for this didn't seem that interesting (or was badly told).

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I think I would have liked it if they had kept the ACs a bit more mysterious for a bit longer, rather than explaining exactly who they are and what they want in part 2, but on the other hand they have given themselves an awful lot to establish ... if this were a US series they would be planning for 20+ eps, whereas this is following a typical British approach and going for 6-8.
If this were a US series and was in a run of 20+ episodes, I would hope they would employ a better scriptwriter.

Paul 09-02-2011 14:05

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I seem to have missed out on any promoting of this as its the first I've heard of it.

Seems like I'm not missing much tho .... :erm:

Chris 22-02-2011 20:59

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Outcasts cast out:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...c1?INTCMP=SRCH

Looks like Mrs T and I are the only ones actually enjoying it ...

Mal 22-02-2011 22:48

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I am sticking with it, but I don't know why. The acting is rubbish and wooden. The only decent character was killed in the first episode.

There is potential for a good story, but it's frustrating that I have to put up with the annoying characters of Cas and the "emotional" Stella.

It has got me curious to see what happens though...

dilli-theclaw 22-02-2011 22:50

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35180061)
Outcasts cast out:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...c1?INTCMP=SRCH

Looks like Mrs T and I are the only ones actually enjoying it ...

No, I'm enjoying it as well :)

Hugh 22-02-2011 23:06

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I have all so far on V+ - just need a chance to watch them.

Scary 22-02-2011 23:21

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the thing is the americans will get hold of this and make it a hundred times better

Mick Fisher 23-02-2011 01:14

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Originally Posted by Scary (Post 35180241)
the thing is the americans will get hold of this and make it a hundred times better

Rubbish x 100 = OMG!

I just hope the Yanks keep it for themselves. :D

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35180219)
I have all so far on V+ - just need a chance to watch them.

Good luck with that. :erm: :D

Peter_ 23-02-2011 09:19

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I watched the first 2 and decided t delete the second 2 episodes as I decided that watching paint dry would be more productive, I wondered where this weeks episodes had gone and cannot say that I was surprised.

The only way it could have been worse was to have James Nesbitt in it.

Mick Fisher 23-02-2011 18:57

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35180351)
I watched the first 2 and decided t delete the second 2 episodes as I decided that watching paint dry would be more productive, I wondered where this weeks episodes had gone and cannot say that I was surprised.

The only way it could have been worse was to have James Nesbitt in it.

:Yes: :D

Peter_ 23-02-2011 20:07

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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35180806)
:Yes: :D

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35169858)
It is not bad much better than that poor underwater "epic" The Deep that was out last year.

I was wrong and I still want those hours back from the BBC for watching that rubbish.:D

Scary 24-02-2011 12:37

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Originally Posted by Mick Fisher (Post 35180306)
Rubbish x 100 = OMG!

I just hope the Yanks keep it for themselves. :D

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Good luck with that. :erm: :D

are you serious anything we make they make better they have better actors and more money for effects i would love it if they did an american version coz are's sucks its boring and predictable and the acting is so poor my two year old could do better

Graham M 24-02-2011 12:44

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Originally Posted by Scary (Post 35181208)
are you serious anything we make they make better they have better actors and more money for effects i would love it if they did an american version coz are's sucks its boring and predictable and the acting is so poor my two year old could do better

Wrong. Comedies they don't :p:


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