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Digital Fanatic 27-09-2010 18:54

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Originally Posted by Juo (Post 35099134)
She looks awful.

That's a bit harsh! I think she looks ok, but potential employers may be put off and make a judgement before she has even opened her mouth.

Hugh 27-09-2010 19:41

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35099246)
That's a bit harsh! I think she looks ok, but potential employers may be put off and make a judgement before she has even opened her mouth.

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Albert Merhabian, a UCLA psychologist, conducted experiments that revealed how people perceive each other. He found that first impressions are based on the following criteria: 55 percent is visual; 38 percent is for our voices, and a mere 7 percent is for what we say
In my opinion, if you make a negative first impression (visual or otherwise), you will have to spend the rest of the interview trying to fix that - why put yourself at an initial disadvantage needlessly?

martyh 27-09-2010 19:56

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35099268)
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In my opinion, if you make a negative first impression (visual or otherwise), you will have to spend the rest of the interview trying to fix that - why put yourself at an initial disadvantage needlessly?

Because the need to express herself far outweighs the practicalities of getting a job .I bet she is a miz aswell ;)

Gary L 27-09-2010 19:58

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35099268)
In my opinion, if you make a negative first impression (visual or otherwise), you will have to spend the rest of the interview trying to fix that - why put yourself at an initial disadvantage needlessly?

Does that mean if you're ugly you'll be spending the rest of the interview fixing it?

I would say it's all depending on what job she or anyone is after really. not all jobs mean having to have an interview, do they?

Peter_ 27-09-2010 20:01

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35099283)

I would say it's all depending on what job she or anyone is after really. not all jobs mean having to have an interview, do they?

With so many people after jobs nowadays I think you will find that everyone now has to be interviewed before being offered a job as they want the most suitable person.

Caff 27-09-2010 20:20

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There is no way of knowing how the complete interview went and the previous meetings went. I wonder if he was giving plain, blunt advice.
Would I, as a prospective employer, pick her out because of her looks? Nope. How much of a statement does she need to make?
Does she have other qualities that an employer requires?
She's not really redeeming herself to the fierce competition of the job market.
I think that it's difficult to give advice to people on how to make themselves employable, sometimes, seeing as they couldn't do it for themsalves.
Tact goes a long way: and back to my first sentence.

Gary L 27-09-2010 20:22

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But aren't we discriminating? or on the border of it?

nomadking 27-09-2010 20:25

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The aspects of your appearance that you can choose to modify, can be seen to give an indication of your attitude and therefore your suitability to a job.

Hugh 27-09-2010 20:31

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35099283)
Does that mean if you're ugly you'll be spending the rest of the interview fixing it?

No - it's not about attractiveness or otherwise (most people aren't so shallow), it's about looking as if you want the job, and are willing to make an effort to fit in (as nomadking says above)

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35099283)
I would say it's all depending on what job she or anyone is after really. not all jobs mean having to have an interview, do they?

Most jobs now have an interview, at least at the final stage.

Gary L 27-09-2010 20:31

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But what if you had a mohican, a pierced tongue, dreadlocks, face that looked like you put the make up on with a trowel?

could we get to the stage where the unemployed get told how they have to look if they want benefits?

that would be funny though. all the unemployed going to sign on in suits and wearing acceptable footwear.

Hom3r 27-09-2010 20:32

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What you can do if you have face studs, is remove them for interviews, and use a wax filler.

One thing any employer will look at is "will this person fit in?" You wouldn't employ a Chelsea fan if all you works supported Millwall

Gary L 27-09-2010 20:33

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35099301)
No - it's not about attractiveness or otherwise (most people aren't so shallow), it's about looking as if you want the job, and are willing to make an effort to fit in

Interesting. goes with my previous post.

Hugh 27-09-2010 20:35

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35099305)
Interesting. goes with my previous post.

Not sure what you mean - in most jobs, you will be part of a team, so fitting in is quite important; this doesn't mean, however, that employers are looking for identikit clones - they are (usually) looking for individuals who can also be part of a team.

Hom3r 27-09-2010 20:37

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35099302)
But what if you had a mohican, a pierced tongue, dreadlocks, face that looked like you put the make up on with a trowel?

could we get to the stage where the unemployed get told how they have to look if they want benefits?


Those look would unlikely get a job dealing with the public, and most campanies have dress codes.

Gary L 27-09-2010 20:38

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35099307)
Not sure what you mean - in most jobs, you will be part of a team, so fitting in is quite important; this doesn't mean, however, that employers are looking for identikit clones - they are (usually) looking for individuals who can also be part of a team.

Not necessarily in all cases. she might just want to be a cleaner or something.

does anyone know what work she's looking for?


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