Re: Britain goes halal
 

About the only interesting bits are the following:

Very true, the lack of transparency is not appropriate.

Very annoying - there should be consideration for those on the other side of things as well. Of course there's never been an issue with a lack of transparency, that's the point, the lack of transparency hid the issue.

Ignoring the Mail's hyperboles it's quite disconcerting that there is a roll back in animal welfare in favour of religious superstitions however this is merely a reflection of the UK in general at the moment with religion being more of an issue in day to day life than it has in a while.

As a general disclaimer however I should of course mention that I am not religious per se and believe this country, and every other nation on Earth, should be governed with tolerance but absolutely no deference or reference to religious beliefs.

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I think it's a bit like eggs. and whether they're free range or not. some people think that those that aren't free range are cruel to the animals, and won't buy them.
they even go out of their way to tell you whether they were from the cruel or not cruel way.

I can see how this could be seen as being cruel to the animal in the publics eyes if they were told about it.

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I once saw the BBC programme where they take a animal, slaughter it and serve it. In it it said that the law relating to animal slaughtering in UK slaughter houses/abbatoirs (non religious ones) is that the stunning proces cannot kill the animal. The stun is used to 'stun' and then the cow is hung upside down, has its throat slit, and bled to death. Any animals killed via stunning are removed from the process. These practices were introduced during the mad cow disease era.

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Is that actually true though?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher#Animal_welfare

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Our local tesco has a frozen section that is for Halal food.

Just as well I'm not into meat.

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What if they labelled it as 'throat cut/religious" and not 'stunned/welfare"?

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What also amuses me is that a lot of "non religious" abbatoirs slaughter animals by cutting across the throat, but not saying any prayers. Is the anger here to do with a prayer being said, or the manner in which its killed. I'd say the former. If atheists don't belive in God or religion, and go on about how silly it is for Christians, Jews, Muslims to believe in fairy tales, why do they get so upset when someone utters a prayer? Is it effecting their way of life? Will you become a muslim because you've eaten Halaal meat? Or a Jew - because you've eaten Kosher. I assume the Mail did not throw its arms in the air about Kosher - probably did not want to upset any of the Jews that sit on its board.

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And I'd imagine they have a much bigger frozen section for non-Halal food, right? I'm not sure what the problem is here. They stock Halal food but make sure it's separated from the non-Halal food so that those who don't want it aren't likely to get it by mistake? Surely that's a good thing?

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I think you're just ranting. the saying of the little prayer is irrelevant I'd say. I personally couldn't be bothered what anyone mumbles after doing it. I'd be more concerned about how they did it.

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I think you know as well as the rest of us that if halal was nothing to do with Islam this wouldn't have made it in to the Mail or on to CF.

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Russ are you calling me a racist for posting an animal welfare issue ?

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Gary, I would suggest you look at slaughter houses in general then. Both in the UK, and countries which export meats to the UK. You might find that the only difference between halaal and non - halaal is "what anyone mumbles after doing it".

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No, Islam isn't a race. I'd call you anti-Muslim for the many many thinly-veiled Muslim-bashing posts you make.

I'm not saying I think the lack of transparency isn't an issue but I think it's pretty clear what your intention is in this and previous similar-themed threads.

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You do know, of course, that the majority of "Indian" restaurants in the UK are run by Bangladeshi?;)

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And here I was thinking Sunday was a day of rest, lol.