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looper35uk 29-06-2010 21:57

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
Just out of Interest has anyone with a Mac on here ever had a virus.

Chris 30-06-2010 00:55

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
I have one. It never has. It has never had any AV software on it either.

ZrByte 30-06-2010 08:07

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35048924)
I have one. It never has. It has never had any AV software on it either.

Since you don't have any av how do you know? not alll viruses causes wierd system behaviour.

Chris 30-06-2010 14:15

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
Which documented Mac virus do you have in mind?

ZrByte 30-06-2010 15:18

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35049088)
Which documented Mac virus do you have in mind?

Can't name specifics but I don't see that being relevant. Most trojan or back door viruses and their variants Are designed not to cause system disruption until used, as any abnormal system behaviour would alert the user and that is counter productive.

Kymmy 30-06-2010 15:29

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
Used to get a few old Duobooks coming in with a virus problem back in late 90's but not had much experience with MACs since

Chris 30-06-2010 16:05

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
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Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 35049108)
Can't name specifics but I don't see that being relevant. Most trojan or back door viruses and their variants Are designed not to cause system disruption until used, as any abnormal system behaviour would alert the user and that is counter productive.

It's very relevant. You suggest I don't know I've never been infected, and postulate that my system could be infected by malware that wouldn't cause abnormal behaviour, such that I wouldn't know it was there.

Your entire reasoning is based on your assumption that such malware even exists for the Mac. Hence my request that you justify that assumption.

ZrByte 30-06-2010 16:33

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35049125)
It's very relevant. You suggest I don't know I've never been infected, and postulate that my system could be infected by malware that wouldn't cause abnormal behaviour, such that I wouldn't know it was there.

Your entire reasoning is based on your assumption that such malware even exists for the Mac. Hence my request that you justify that assumption.

I don't see how it is relevant as I'm not claiming your system is infected I'm just pointing out that not having av your assumption that your system is clean is a pretty big stretch.
And again though I couldn't name specific examples I did name a category of virus that by its very nature does not disrupt a system because it is counter productive to the viruses goals and I can assure you that there are plenty of examples of that particular group on the mac.
However, if a name will really make you happy The Backdoor.OSX.HellRaiser virus is quite effective and it does exactly what I said earlier.

Lew 30-06-2010 17:15

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
That's a trojan, not a virus.

---------- Post added at 16:15 ---------- Previous post was at 16:14 ----------

BTW, I've never had a virus, trojan or any other kind of malware on any of my computers, Mac or Windows.

ZrByte 30-06-2010 17:43

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35049145)
That's a trojan, not a virus..

You detect them with av so my point is still valid ;). Just not necessarily in line with the OP.

Ignitionnet 30-06-2010 18:52

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35048924)
I have one. It never has. It has never had any AV software on it either.

Just to point out if someone claimed this about a Windows machine you would have extremely strong doubts. Claiming a machine that has never had AV software on it has never been infected by anything is a stretch regardless of the OS it runs.

Damien 30-06-2010 21:37

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35049196)
Just to point out if someone claimed this about a Windows machine you would have extremely strong doubts. Claiming a machine that has never had AV software on it has never been infected by anything is a stretch regardless of the OS it runs.

Not if there is very few viruses documented for an OS it isn't..

Ignitionnet 30-06-2010 22:21

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35049288)
Not if there is very few viruses documented for an OS it isn't..

Nope still most unwise to assume anything, even if the balance of probabilities is in your favour. What's assumption the mother of Damien? ;)

Damien 30-06-2010 22:37

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35049319)
Nope still most unwise to assume anything, even if the balance of probabilities is in your favour. What's assumption the mother of Damien? ;)

I think you can say your pretty safe. Otherwise you would be doing far more than is needed on the small off chance that you happen to be infected with an as yet unheard of viruses. Mac OSX has a the firewall on be default, a lot of people even on windows run without a anti-virus because of the performance hit. As long as you act sensibly you would normally be ok.

Don't get your last sentence.

the-cable-guy 03-07-2010 15:31

Re: Macs never get viruses
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 35048970)
Since you don't have any av how do you know? not alll viruses causes wierd system behaviour.

well said plus its pretty nieve to think that its safe to use the internet without AV.


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