Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

yeah same here ,but would you feel the same if they were going to highest bidder ,and a child died because their parents couldn't afford it ,an emotive argument i know but the whole organ donating business is a bit of a lottery

Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

Is this for real ?

Donate your kidney and you can queue jump treatment, or get money towards expenses ?

That is just plain wrong.

Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

yep very real ,i even went onto there website to check it out and verify skys story


http://www.nuffieldbioethics.org/go/...lease_548.html

Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

God no........ Only for NHS patients.

Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

Why? Do you not believe that donating an organ after your death to be a good thing?

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I am in total agreement with you on that. In fact, I have gone one stage farther and have regostered with NHS Organ Donor Register.

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Why not your eyes?

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Hmm, whilst I agree with you on the queue jumping thing, having money towards funeral expenses is a fitting gesture I think. I don't think people will be necessarily incentivised to donate because of it, but I think it would be a respectful way to thank someone for their gift.

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But, to be more accurate these are only the thoughts and ideas of a few people, asking some questions, not a policy.

Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

As per my previous posts I do not trust them if I had given them permission not to abuse my trust.

I have held this belief for a very long time and it will never change.

Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

If your kidneys were to fail and the only way of saving you was a transplant, what questions would ask the potential donor's family, to ensure that they are making the right decision?

Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

All my family are on the donor register and also carry a donor cards.

I don't feel comfortable with the idea of incentives being offered, anything that links money and donated organs together just feeds the suspicions of people who don't trust the ethics of those people in control of the harvesting and allocation process.

I would like organ donations to be on an opt out basis as I feel that with more donors there would be an increase in the number of organs available and consequently less desperation find a matching organ. Hopefully this would then reduce the suspicions of wrongdoing and manipulation voiced against the medical profession and people in a position to pay or queue jump.

Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

I don't think that's what he is saying ,Masque seems to feel the same as a lot of people do ,in that the system at present is wide open to abuse at worst ,and favouritism at best ,and until the system is cleaned up then people will continue to be put off
On the other hand though it is a good thing that the ethics behind organ donating is being discussed as a few tweaks to the rules could mean 1000's more donors and lets be honest how many people actually think about donating organs or blood whereas being paid in some form for it would put a whole new perspective on it for 1000's of people

Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

This arrangement would also negate the need for any kind of manipulation being used as scaremongering, by the media and Hollywood. If there is a surplus of organs available, there would no visible need to jump queues or bribe someone for an organ.

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I think too many people watch too much television.

Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

While I agree that the system should be opt out, if you can argue that offering gifts etc in return for organs is similar to buying organs, you could argue that requiring people to opt out of giving their organs is state sponsored theft of organs.

Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

If you’re sick and need a transplant then you should only get one though the donor scheme if you are registered as a donor. If you haven’t then tough luck, you better hope a relative or friend have an organ to spare.

Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

would you care to elaborate or was that justa random nonsensical remark

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hardly fair really, what about children needing heart transplants ect they wont have filled out a donor card:rolleyes:

Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

Won't somebody think of the children :rolleyes:

Once someone is old enough to decide for themselves (while children can join the donor scheme it still requires parent/guardian permission until they are 18) and they choose not to join the scheme then they should forfeit any right to receive an organ from the scheme. Sure it’s not fair, but since when is burying healthy organs when people are crying out for them fair?

Re: the ethics of organ donating
 

you might possibly be able to justify that if we use a opt out system but with the present system there are to many variables .people think they are registered by carrying a donor card but that is not the case so a system were people have to opt out of donating organs would possibly be justification for your system

and by the way it's not just children i was thinking about what about mentaly handicapped people