Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34990581)

I'm pretty sure Russ did not start this thread in an attempt to glorify Christian terrorism. In fact, I suspect he meant to highlight the fact there are nutters everywhere. This could have been a good thread. Pity it was derailed from post #2.

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34990576)

If anyone is itching for an argument (as usual) it's you Russ, as demonstrated by Daniel's quote I would say.
As I said, with regards to Islamic terrorists, there is often an accusation from outsiders that all muslims support their actions as being in line with their religion, despite it being patently obvious that many are horrified and ashamed that such actions would be taken in the name of their god.
I was hoping that as a prominant christian on the board, you could give your opinion on the matter, considering the actions they had taken and were planning to take, especially as you're the one who brought the topic to light.
It would have been a good example to expand on, showing that whilst a terrorist group may claim to represent a religion, their actions clearly show they do not, without anti-islamists doing their usual of tarring all with the same brush.
But if you'd prefer an argument, I'm sure one of the other members would be happy to oblige you.

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34990601)

Then maybe you are at fault for not making your meaning any clearer because I have to say it wasn't in anyway as clear as you have made several posts later.

I had thought your obsession with Russ's faith and intentions had mellowed somewhat lately..seems I was wrong sadly.

Originally Posted by marky (Post 34990614)

Wasnt the IRA so called Christian ?

Originally Posted by marky (Post 34990614)

Wasnt the IRA so called Christian ?

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34990645)

No - most members of the IRA were Catholic, but the IRA was not a Catholic organisation (more Marxist).

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34990644)

Or is "Are they really christians?" actually a valid and on-topic question?

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34990649)

And many do not consider them to be christians.

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34990644)

Sorry, I appologise, I didn't realise "Are they really christians?" was such a complex question which requires at least 10 lines of explainatory notes.
I will endeavour to use words of fewer syllables for you next time :rolleyes:
Can you direct me to the new forum rule where all questions need to be explained in great depth? By this question (which are things which are asked) I mean the updated list of forum rules which now say that all questions must be explained so that all members can understand what is actually being asked, a I've looked and cannot see such rule.
Or is "Are they really christians?" actually a valid and on-topic question?

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34990649)

And many do not consider them to be christians.

Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34990652)

It is a valid question but when there is an obvious hidden meaning behind it people might get upset.

Originally Posted by Derek S

From the link the headline states 'Christian militants' which really should give you a clue that yes, they are christians.

They might not belong to a specific church but they class themselves as christians. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of splinters of christianity out there and some don't agree with the others teachings. I'd say if they claim to be christian then yes they are. The same way if someone claims to be muslim then they are.

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I've an aunt who belongs to a certain church. They believe unless you are a member of that exact church you are going to hell and have a special dislike of catholics.

She doesn't consider anyone outwith her church to be christians so is she right?

Basically unless I missed a meeting you don't need special permission to be counted as a christian and don't need to carry a special ID card saying you are christian.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34990659)

I wouldn't call it off-topic really, but I think we'd have to question your motives when you repeatedly ask one forum member for his specific opinion on whether his considers them Christians

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34990644)

Sorry, I appologise, I didn't realise "Are they really christians?" was such a complex question which requires at least 10 lines of explainatory notes.

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34990664)

Actally Russ, my first post wasn't directed at anyone, hence why I didn't quote you.
You picked up the thread and entered into a conversation with me hence why I quoted you in my posts directed to you.
I realised your mistake which is why I edited a later post to make it clear so you wouldn't be confused and think I'm interested in you specifically.