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Hugh	17-01-2010 10:04

re: Smacking ban in schools loophole

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34946491)

Do the parents have any say or rights if their child is a victim of this loophole?

Yes - they can remove them from the educational establishment (and from their relatives homes, as it is the same "loophole" that covers both areas).

Gary L

17-01-2010 10:09

re: Smacking ban in schools loophole

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34946486)

No, the fact that it also applies to Christian Sunday Schools, probably Jewish part-time education facilities, and the chances that you and the Daily Mail have focused on the Muslim aspect.:dozey:

You're not reading the thread properly :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34946489)

but the loophole isn't just for muslims is it ,so it isn't "1 law for us ,but not for others " it's the same law for everyone

I know that. why do you think I put others and not Muslims? :dozey:
I think the Daily Mail have used the Muslim word as they are the majority that this affects the most.

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34946495)

Yes - they can remove them from the educational establishment (and from their relatives homes, as it is the same "loophole" that covers both areas).

But the member of staff or parent cannot be held accountable for their actions? they are effectively covered by law?

martyh

17-01-2010 10:11

re: Smacking ban in schools loophole

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34946497)

You're not reading the thread properly :rolleyes:

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I know that. why do you think I put others and not Muslims? :dozey:
I think the Daily Mail have used the Muslim word as they are the majority that this affects the most.

so who are the "others" that this law doesn't apply to but we have to abide by ?:confused:

are we discussing the fact that this loophole exists at all or the fact that muslims might/might not be smacking children at a specific type of school ?

Gary L

17-01-2010 10:16

re: Smacking ban in schools loophole

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34946506)

so who are the "others" that this law doesn't apply to but we have to abide by ?:confused:

The others are those that are allowed to 'smack' as opposed to the others that are not ? :confused:

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are we discussing the fact that this loophole exists at all or the fact that muslims might/might not be smacking children at a specific type of school ?

Anyone you want. we can debate either.

Hugh	17-01-2010 10:19

re: Smacking ban in schools loophole

I love the sound of "back-pedalling" in a thread.....:D

Your original quotes from the Daily Mail highlighted this supposed issue solely in relation to Muslims.

Gary L

17-01-2010 10:24

re: Smacking ban in schools loophole

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34946513)

Your original quotes from the Daily Mail highlighted this supposed issue solely in relation to Muslims.

That's probably due to the fact that that's what they published.
what's the point of being PC and missing it all out and going for the Christians? :confused:

martyh

17-01-2010 10:24

re: Smacking ban in schools loophole

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The others are those that are allowed to 'smack' as opposed to the others that are not ? :confused:

but we've already established that ALL schools with pupils who attend under a certain amount of hours are allowed to smack NOT just muslim so there are no "others"

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Anyone you want. we can debate either.

then it shouldn't be allowed in ANY school ,the only people allowed to smack children should the parents if they choose to adopt that stance

Kymmy

17-01-2010 10:25

re: Smacking ban in schools loophole

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34946489)

but the loophole isn't just for muslims is it ,so it isn't "1 law for us ,but not for others " it's the same law for everyone

And with that true comment it's time to change the title

Gary L

17-01-2010 10:26

Re: 1 law for us, but not for others.

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34946516)

but we've already established that ALL schools with pupils who attend under a certain amount of hours are allowed to smack NOT just muslim so there are no "others"

Yes. I remember you asking.

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then it shouldn't be allowed in ANY school ,the only people allowed to smack children should the parents if they choose to adopt that stance

Then should we close this loophole?

martyh

17-01-2010 10:27

Re: 1 law for us, but not for others.

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34946518)

Yes. I remember you asking.

Then should we close this loophole?

refer to my above post ;)

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And with that true comment it's time to change the title

but now it aint got no muslims in it ;)

Hugh	17-01-2010 10:37

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34946515)

That's probably due to the fact that that's what they published.
what's the point of being PC and missing it all out and going for the Christians? :confused:

Gary, it's not being PC to include all the facts (even the ones you don't like).

Gary L

17-01-2010 10:46

Re: 1 law for us, but not for others.

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34946519)

refer to my above post ;)

Conga rats. we have 1 person that has decided between for and against. if only politics was this easy :)

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but now it aint got no muslims in it ;)

It never did have any muslims in it ;)

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34946525)

Gary, it's not being PC to include all the facts (even the ones you don't like).

Sorry. from now on I'll quote the whole lot. it will save me from being accused of being biased, but might get me being told off for not quoting a little bit and a link for the rest :)

punky

17-01-2010 10:48

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole

Whilst everyone is falling over themselves to try and extricate the I word from this thread... Anyone actually know why there is an exemption in the first place?

Kymmy

17-01-2010 10:50

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34946533)

Sorry. from now on I'll quote the whole lot. it will save me from being accused of being biased, but might get me being told off for not quoting a little bit and a link for the rest :)

The original title is all what was needed to see that you are biased and selectively pulled up on the muslim issue instead of the whole article. :(

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Originally Posted by punky (Post 34946540)

Whilst everyone is falling over themselves to try and extricate the I word from this thread... Anyone actually know why there is an exemption in the first place?

Trust Punky to do one of the first genuine questions in this thread. I personally have no idea as to why the exemption..

Gary L

17-01-2010 10:52

Re: Smacking ban in schools loophole

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Originally Posted by punky (Post 34946540)

Whilst everyone is falling over themselves to try and extricate the I word from this thread... Anyone actually know why there is an exemption in the first place?

Good point. after all a school is a school. no matter how many hours you attend it.

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