Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

Of course if you don't speed/use a phone while driving/ go through red lights etc. you won't pay any fine let alone a 'victim surcharge' ;)

Meanwhile back in the real world it is a fairly shameless attempt to get more money in. I don't think for a second the money raised by surcharges is ring-fenced to ensure it goes to 'victims' and like the recent increases in seatbelt and registration plate offences does nothing to address the root cause and is purely about getting money in.

I'd wager important parts of my anatomy that one of the new targets (that don't officially exist anymore) will be to target road deaths via seatbelt tickets and other traffic crime by doing people for having dodgy number plates.

Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

Exactly what I was thinking.... Dont do the crime, dont pay the fine and all that..

Just hope that the extra revenue is actually given to those who should be getting it

Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

The trouble is, it doesn't go directly to the 'victims' but to 'victim services'. Apart from the percentage that gets swallowed up in administration costs, there is a significant amount of unpaid compensation out there.

Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

So, Its getting worse & in the near future, can we expect this?

Parking fine £30.00
Domestic Violence tax £15.00
Attendants fees £25.00
Administration fees £25.00
Photo services £10.00
Hire of attendants uniforms £15.00
Attendants Kit-Kat & Coffee £6.00
Winter surcharge £10.00
Post & Packing £8.00
Handling fee £6.00
V A T @ 17.5% £26.25


Total to pay £176.25

Cheque enclosed.



.:erm:

Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

On the brightside your chances of getting done are practically non-existant seeing all the cops are inside the station drinking tea and keeping warm. :mad:

Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

and given it takes 3 days to respond to a plea for help i see your point .

Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

I dont blame them in this weather m8.:)

Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

Two words " Stealth Tax "
Somebody has to pay for the British Economy going down the pan, the bankers bonuses, mp's expenses etc;

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Must be murder leaving Wii Sports ;)

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Ofcourse, after the admin fees have been taken out, you know how these things work.
There is someone at the top on a nice little wedge and benefits, their money comes out of where?
In a way it's like the CSA, the wayward father pays the CSA £20 per week the child gets £7.

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That is caused through selfishness, it will not be cured by increasing fixed penalty notices, lining up and shooting the perpetrators might make others think twice, I know thats rediculous, but so is the thought that increasing fines will stop the problem.

Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

Hey, what about a really radical solution? I wonder if anyone can guess what it would be.

Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

We give up. what is it?

Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

But then:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6973689.ece

So, it raises six million pounds, but three hundred and sixty million pounds is paid out. Now, even my maths says that more money is paid out than is raised. Which says to me that any surplus (where, I cannot see) is used to pay for such services.

What is wrong with supporting the victims of crime, do you not think that providing support services for victims is a worthwhile pursuit?

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So, you don't think that someone falling out of a wheelchair deserves to be compensated for their injuries? Selfishness aside, a criminal offence has been committed and someone has been injured because of it.

Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

Flyboy, did I say that someone falling out of a wheelchair is undeserving of compensation?
No.
We live sadly in a large selfish society, where no matter what is thrown at people they ignore the consequences.
The other day alone I spotted two able bodied people parking in disabled bays at the front of an asda, would the thought of being caught and hammered with a £60 fine stop them? if it did you could guarantee that within five minutes of them driving off someone else would do the same thing.
Sorry, its a stealth tax, nothing less, and the real issue is not being tackled.

Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

We are all victims of crime from the MP's expenses, the war in Iraq, and the banks.
We should claim all put claims in for suffering loss, expense, and lack of sleep.

Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

Only if you drive over the speed limit and park illegally.

Yes, it is as simple as that.

Re: £15 extra tax on car fines
 

But that is a 'crime' that you have commited yourself. but are punished by having to pay for somebody elses crime. a crime that is totally unrelated to you and your car.
that isn't what justice is about. it's not even what the law is either.