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Sir John Luke

14-11-2009 13:49

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

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Originally Posted by dev (Post 34909419)

Considering the blocked extension list is a copy/paste of the google help page (with a VM added verbose list) I'd say it's likely it is google's policy. Just because google don't explicitly list the extensions doesn't mean they don't block them.

Someone over on the VM newsgroups has tested this with googlemail and identified 15 file types which are blocked by VM but NOT by Google.

Peter_

14-11-2009 14:00

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

So Virginmedia inline with Google and probably many other email providers do not allow yo to send encrypted mail via their servers.

If that is the case and you need to send mails in this way do as other people have said and purchase your own domain.

Sirius

14-11-2009 14:03

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34909414)

Time for the usual link I think!!!

:clap:

Gary L

14-11-2009 14:09

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34909422)

If that is the case and you need to send mails in this way do as other people have said and purchase your own domain.

and when they make the service really unuseable with restrictions. remember you can always change providings. simples! :D

Peter_

14-11-2009 14:16

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34909428)

and when they make the service really unuseable with restrictions. remember you can always change providings. simples! :D

I have no issues with my @blueyonder.co.uk account and it is most certainly not unusable and I send and receive mail every single day.

This thread is a non event and if you choose to use Virginmedia's email system you have to abide by the rules, if you use another companies email service and they have similar restrictions then you also have to abide by their rules.

If you feel that these restrictions are unjust and intrusive then your time would be better served searching out an email provider that does not have restrictions and then post that link for the people on here to check out for themselves.

You never know if you find the right provider and people think it is good then you will find yourself being repped by grateful fellow posters.

Here is one you could try as it has 5Gb mailboxes and the ability to send 50Mb attachments and they do not scan your email for advertising purposes.

http://gmx.com/

Gary L

14-11-2009 14:25

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34909432)

This thread is a non event and if you choose to use Virginmedia's email system you have to abide by the rules,

These restrictions (rules) weren't there before when we were using it from the start.

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if you use another companies email service and they have similar restrictions then you also have to abide by their rules.

We used this one and it never had them restrictions until now.

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If you feel that these restrictions are unjust and intrusive then your time would be better served searching out an email provider that does not have restrictions and then post that link for the people on here to check out for themselves.

www.googlemail.com

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You never know if you find the right provider and people think it is good then you will find yourself being repped by grateful fellow posters.

I don't do it for the rep. but it is appreciated :)

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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34909432)

Here is one you could try as it has 5Gb mailboxes and the ability to send 50Mb attachments and they do not scan your email for advertising purposes.

Does VM? :confused:

Peter_

14-11-2009 14:30

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

Do really think that this has not been the case since day one or just because you became aware of it after reading it on the Newsgroups.

This it what it says on the GMX website about privacy

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Many e-mail provider scan e-mail content for tailoring ads. Not GMX. We will NEVER scan your e-mails for advertising purposes. We always treat your e-mails just like sealed letters so they stay what they are - private!

http://gmx.com/

Gary L

14-11-2009 14:37

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34909441)

Do really think that this has not been the case since day one or just because you became aware of it after reading it on the Newsgroups.

:confused:
anyway, One of the biggest problems with these new rules are if we can't see what's in the zip, it won't get through.
you have to ask if that's for security reasons, or snooping reasons. if it has no extension it get's blocked. at the other end it's unuseable unless the correct extension is added to the file manually. so until you do that then it's not dangerous is it.

Paul	14-11-2009 14:42

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

Yeah, its for snooping reasons Gary, VM have decided they have nothing better to do than look at everyones zip files. :rolleyes:

If it bothers you that much, compress them using something else.

As for snooping - you do realise that e-mail is plain text ? I take it you dont mind them reading all of that with the same AV scanner ......

Sir John Luke

14-11-2009 14:48

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 34909446)

As for snooping - you do realise that e-mail is plain text ?

Isn't this precisely why people choose to password-protect or encrypt sensitive files? Because e-mail is not in itself a secure means of communication?

BenMcr

14-11-2009 14:50

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34909435)

www.googlemail.com

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...en&answer=9481

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Gmail allows you to send and receive zipped attachments, as long as they meet three conditions:

They don't contain executable files.
They are less than the maximum attachment size.
They are not encrypted or password-protected AND don't contain other zipped files. If the attachment is encrypted and does not contain another zipped attachment, then it can be sent and received.

Sir John Luke

14-11-2009 14:51

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

...see point 3) Ben.

"If the attachment is encrypted and does not contain another zipped attachment, then it can be sent and received."

xocemp

14-11-2009 14:52

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34909414)

Time for the usual link I think!!!

And lets not forget

The same old same old.

Sir John Luke

14-11-2009 14:55

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

While we're at it

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11...vernment_plot/

Seriously though, many companies are always pointing out that e-mail is an insecure means of communication and any sensitive information SHOULD be encrypted.

Peter_

14-11-2009 15:04

Re: Virgin email - spying or nanny?

All it comes down to in the end is if you do not like how a company handles your email then take your emails elsewhere as nothing is going to alter the fact that Virgin disallow encrypted emails to be sent.

No amount of posting on here will ever change that regardless of how hard done by you feel.

You do also realise that no one actually physically reads your email unless it is flagged up as spam or a security issue.

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