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Earl of Bronze 05-11-2009 01:21

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34903964)
I'm not biting Russ. and it wasn't the fairies that advised me :D

Sweetie white mice maybe ? :angel::D

Gary L 05-11-2009 01:24

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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze (Post 34903965)
Sweetie white mice maybe ? :angel::D

My dog, would you believe :)

Russ 05-11-2009 01:24

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34903964)
I'm not biting Russ. and it wasn't the fairies that advised me :D

There no requirement or expectation for you to bite. If you're feeling a bit let down that I've pointed out where you've added words to this story then that's what happens when you put your own spin on a story like this.

The man says the devil created the situation - to an extent I'll go along with that if he's talking about the temptation but it's inadmissible in court and has no justification on any level. Depending on someone's spiritual beliefs it may explain his actions but does not excuse them.

SMG 05-11-2009 01:25

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His reported words were:

"I believe in the bible and in Christ. I abide by the rules. I was drinking and it was Satan that created this situation."

Satan didn`t order him to do it, but the implication was, that Satan set him up to do it. Perhaps he would like to be tried as a weak minded fool, & get a lessor sentance. We all have the "Devil" in us sometimes, when we do things we wouldnt ordinarily do, but attempted rape isnt one of them.

Russ 05-11-2009 01:29

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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34903970)
Satan didn`t order him to do it, but the implication was, that Satan set him up to do it.

The point is on spiritual/christian level he is correct (we believe satan puts temptation in the way of us all in the hope we'll take it). But again I stress it's totally wrong to use that as a defence in court and on a moral level, no matter what our beliefs may be, we are ultimately responsible for our actions. We make the decision to commit acts.

SMG 05-11-2009 01:31

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34903972)
The point is on spiritual/christian level he is correct (we believe satan puts temptation in the way of us all in the hope we'll take it). But again I stress it's totally wrong to use that as a defence in court and on a moral level, no matter what our beliefs may be, we are ultimately responsible for our actions. We make the decision to commit acts.


Absoloo......Absolutel.........Dead right. Bring on the vasaline, (with broken glass).:D

Gary L 05-11-2009 01:48

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34903969)
There no requirement or expectation for you to bite. If you're feeling a bit let down that I've pointed out where you've added words to this story then that's what happens when you put your own spin on a story like this.

Russ I just added my view, as did you.
Satan did not create any situation, as you say. the situation was there and he acted on it out of his own free will.

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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34903973)
Absoloo......Absolutel.........Dead right. Bring on the vasaline, (with broken glass).:D

and big bad Bubba :)

Welshchris 05-11-2009 02:24

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Why is it when people comit stupid things like this ffs they come up with stupid explinations?

I remember being told about a guy who used to drink at our local pub before people got to know what he was like and he never returned.

He went to prison for sexual assault on a 13 year old boy years ago, he basically kidnapped him from Swansea and took him to Cardiff to comit the act and the reason that he give was "the boy was being friendly and he thought he was gay and wanted it" What the hell are these people on?? Thats like saying if we are friendly to one another now we are making sexual advances to each other.

Russ 05-11-2009 07:44

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34903975)
Satan did not create any situation, as you say.

Don't be so insolent. That's not what I said and you know it.

Nidge 05-11-2009 07:51

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34903872)
A man caught on CCTV trying to rape a woman in Glasgow blamed the incident on the devil, a court has heard.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/8343127.stm


Just lock him up and forget about him.

Stuart 05-11-2009 12:16

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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34903970)
His reported words were:

"I believe in the bible and in Christ. I abide by the rules. I was drinking and it was Satan that created this situation."

Satan didn`t order him to do it, but the implication was, that Satan set him up to do it. Perhaps he would like to be tried as a weak minded fool, & get a lessor sentance. We all have the "Devil" in us sometimes, when we do things we wouldnt ordinarily do, but attempted rape isnt one of them.

Maybe he was trying to show he had mental problems? After all, while belief in deities is not a sign of mental illness, people who do have mental problems have been known to state that they have been commanded to do something by God.

Gary L 05-11-2009 12:29

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34904194)
Maybe he was trying to show he had mental problems? After all, while belief in deities is not a sign of mental illness, people who do have mental problems have been known to state that they have been commanded to do something by God.

And in this case, the Devil.
he daren't say God put temptation in his way for this one :)

anyway I think he'll plead insanity and go through psychiatric evaluation. where a normal rape case goes by DNA and the word of the victim.

SMG 05-11-2009 14:34

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34904194)
Maybe he was trying to show he had mental problems? After all, while belief in deities is not a sign of mental illness, people who do have mental problems have been known to state that they have been commanded to do something by God.


It is a possible excuse for him to use, & for all we know he could be unbalanced. It will all come out in the end, but in my view, sexual assault should be punishable irrespective of the mental state of the attacker.

I hold very, very harsh views on the criminally insane.

punky 05-11-2009 16:20

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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34903879)
Show him what hell looks like for 10 years, then deport him.

Given the choice between sending him to the Scrubs and Eritrea, I vote for Eritrea.

However, i'm not overly optimistic on his chances of being deported? We have our multiculturalism to think of!

Saaf_laandon_mo 05-11-2009 17:00

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Multiculturalism eh... I now wait for someone to tell us to forget blaming the devil and blame immigration instead.


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