Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

I do recall seeing an advertisement on TV with built in Freeview+, I'll see if I can find it

Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

The three TVs shown here each have a 160GB HDD:

http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/P...-with-Freeview

Not cheap mind!

And with Freeview HD about to put in an appearance tonight, I wouldn't spend too much at the moment anyhoo.

Expect Freeview HD TVs to appear about Easter 2010:

http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/Services/Freeview-HD

Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

All blank except 5 now!

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Analogue TV in the North West is now non existant

Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

I just retuned our freeview box... well, ok, it's on its third retune in the last hour. The channels are sort-of appearing, but I'll give it another retune in the morning... seems some of the channels aren't where they're supposed to be and I'm too tired to fight with it right now :-p

The thing is (and it should be pointed out) some digiboxes will need to go through the retuning process more than once... why? because if you've got a box like ours (built in hdd recorder, single tuner and three years old) it's going to need the extra to ensure that the retune has stuck... my mother has a similar box to ours, but hers crashes every time she retunes so, we've told her to let it run the first time, then when it crashes, switch it off at the wall socket for five minutes and then to switch it back on and retune again.... a further retune afterwards tends to iron out the creases...
In fact, I'm expecting my mother to phone in the morning to query why all her normal tv has gone off... I expect it because I know what shes' like!

Come to think about it, I havent watched any analogue tv at home ever... it's always been digital... by one means or another... thanks largely to assuming there was no aeriel cable and there was, but it was too short to do much... I know I extended it with the coaxial from an old cheap indoor aeriel bought at tesco for £2 and we've had the sweetest picture *ever* since... our freeview box certainly appreciated it after an indoor aeriel with a booster thing on it failed spectacularly...!!

Ahh.. the joys of digital and the trouble I've gone through to get it.... :D

Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

I've never had a terrestrial aerial on my own house. My first house had NTL, and I used the unsubscribed cable for analogue 1-5 for the first couple of years, before eventually subscribing to digital cable. When we moved house, we moved off-net and to an appalling terrestrial reception area on a small, low-power relay with no Freeview at all, so we subscribed to Sky. Eventually we ditched the subscription and now just use the dish for FSFS. When Sky switch off our current smart card I'm going to buy a proper Freesat+HD box.

My mum, meanwhile, miles down south in northwest England, is by now probably holding a wake for her video recorder. I must give her a call later and see if my sister's been round to re-tune the Freeview STB attached to her 20-year-old telly. :erm: :D

Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

Living with the WINTER HILL transmitter in site of my house recieving Digital freeview has never been a problem even using indoor aerials,however this morning after retuning the sets in the bedrooms using said aerials i am getting severe break up and NO SIGNAL on them.and they said the signal would be STRONGER! moving the aerials has no effect!
Am now left wondering if the signal is Too STRONG for the indoor ones?????
(had no probs with the lounge set BTW)

Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

What type of aerial are you using? Winter Hill is a massive and very powerful transmitter, if you're living right under it it could overwhelm even a very modest aerial.

Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

Ehhh... did yet-another-retune this morning... too right I've got more services than before... I've got bbc Wales, ITV wales and S4C..... to name but a few.. got other duplicated channels too which means (and it's true) that I'm living right on the cusp of two transmitters... I'm thinking that some people will be just as 'WHA?!' as I was.... however, I'll do another retune later on just to be sure (all the channels function except for the Welsh-inflicted ones - bad words to use, but the only ones that make sense in this situation)
I used to be able (years ago) to watch HTV in reasonable quality and our local church only used to be able to get all the welsh channels.... so, with only being about three or four miles away now to back then, I'm not surprised I can pick up what I can...

I'm also guessing that others are picking up the Welsh transmissions over Winter Hill transmitions too and I don't know if there's a cure for that... or a workaround - I reckon there's an answer out there but we don't know it yet...

Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

Best thing to do is to delete all channels before doing a retune. You can avoid duplicates and unwanted channels (on my box anyway) by doing a manual retune and just tuning in to the muxes that give you the best signal quality.

There's more information here Type in your post code and tick 'I'm in the installation trade', and it will give you the available transmitters and relevant channels for your location.

Edit: also, on my box, it helps to delete the channels, then do an automatic retune with the aerial disconnected and save the results, to absolutely make sure all the old channels are gone before doing a final retune with the aerial connected.

Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

Just been up the road to sort out a near neighbour who, since last night, was only getting a few channels. He'd done an automatic scan for but, although it said there were 70-odd channels, he could only see a few of them. He rang the help line and they patiently took him thru a manual scan. Lots popped up but again he couldn't actually view them. They suggested it might be a problem with his aerial - even though he was getting 95% signal.

What I did was a 'restore defaults' which put the box back to square one. It then asked a few questions about the setup and then did another automatic scan. Bingo! All is fine and dandy now.

The box was a Setanta / Metronic one if anyone has the same.

Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

At last! i have no more welsh channels

Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

How odd... I did a full factory defaults reset and... I'm getting oddly named channels - and the welsh channels are appearing one minute and not the next on each retune...
I'm seeing things such as 'Service 1a80', 'Service 1ac0' and other strange similarly titled channels listed... I may have to go through it again in the morning and I know that tomorrow night, whilst having my hands shredded by my mothers much maligned moggy, I'll have to reset her digibox too as it's identical to ours and I just hope that the blood that will pour from my hands onto the remote won't affect it too much... ;)

Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

And so it goes... the aeriel on top of the tower block where my mother lives has either died or is currently being upgraded.... don't know which, but my mother is swearing this wouldn't happen if it was the old analogue way - er.. yes it would!!
Her friend is on cable, so she's taken root there until its all fixed...
And she's got it into her head to retune every fourth of the month too - which is good... :D
It might upset the cat a bit as she tends to sit on top of the digibox....

Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

I don't supose it could just be the digibox failing due to it being overheated as a result of the cat sitting on it? :)

Re: The Digital Switchover (Winter Hill, Granada)
 

I've also got the Welsh BBC1,2 ITV 1 & Welsh C4 at the top of my freeview guide list now.:rolleyes:

BBC1 & 2 North West are down at numbers 801 & 802. They were working fine until another update last night. Now the two BBC North West channels are totally screwed, massive pixcellation.

The annoying thing is I can see the Winter Hill transmitter from my window, looks very pretty at night with all the red lights on it.:)

Thankfully the two V+ boxes are working fine, must be a real PITA for Freeview only peeps round here.

Jim.