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webcrawler2050 29-10-2009 23:28

Re: The Truth About 50meg Broadband
 
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Originally Posted by cllp1975 (Post 34900380)
the domain and dns are in the Cocos. It's not exactly Silicon Valley :)

any blog sounds like a rant when only one person is posting

Well it is a rant. I see no evidence. I see no cold solid hard facts. I see nothing other than you "ranting" about generally nothing..

Ben B 29-10-2009 23:30

Re: The Truth About 50meg Broadband
 
Hi I'm Ben and people need to chill

webcrawler2050 29-10-2009 23:31

Re: The Truth About 50meg Broadband
 
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Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 34900382)
Hi I'm Ben and people need to chill

I'm chilled = perfectly... :D:D:D

cllp1975 30-10-2009 07:05

Re: The Truth About 50meg Broadband
 
I'm very chilled. Extremely so. If I was as angry as I was a few days ago, I wouldn't be doing it.

And... well, okay, maybe it is a rant. But that means pretty much the entire press is made up of "rants". I don't recall the last time I saw a column for citations in a newspaper.

Freedom of speech is something that people died for. If you want to disprove anything I've said, go ahead and add comments and I will stand corrected.

But isn't that... you know... a waste of time and energy when you could just move on...? A tadge hypocritical, non? ;)

susan 30-10-2009 08:13

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(Quote from the blog)

Secondly, this whole thing has screwed me over. As a recovering depressive, the fact that I had to use an entire session with my counsellor talking about this mess and how it's affected me has set me back several months.



I am amazed you put yourself through all this for the sake of paying £28 a month for 50MB,i pay over £700 a month on tax alone,perhaps you should pass over the number of your counsellor to me....move on or change ISP,my guess is you have so much time on your hands you need something to fill your workless life.

cllp1975 30-10-2009 08:31

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Actually, I am editor a music website, contribute to several others, have a twice weekly radio show, advise on music for advertisements, do PR for 3 music acts and give lectures and consultancy to community groups on how to develop their social networking strategies. I sit on the board of directors of two companies and manage two internet radio stations. Oh and I occasionally appear as a TV pundit.

I really should get a life, shouldn't I.

As for your comments on depression, it shows a complete lack of understanding of what depression is, how it affects you and what the symptoms and causes are. Depression kills. I don't blame VM for causing my depression - but the last six weeks haven't exactly helped.

Still, if you want to attack me for having principles, for having no life and no career, and being a bit sad, then go right ahead. Sticks and stones, and all that.

BenMcr 30-10-2009 08:55

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In that case you should know that you should check facts before speaking. You have said (when talking about WEP)

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Virgin don't tell you this either, but as well as not being particularly secure, WEP isn't capable of carrying superfast broadband speeds. WEP can be hacked by someone with a mind to in under a minute. And because of the way it encrypts data, it simply can't be decrypted fast enough, and your service slows down.

And yet, Virgin supply routers set to this mode by default.

My Virgin National (ADSL router) came switched on to WPA encrpytion by default, and the following comes from the Wireless G router help pages for cable:

http://www.virginmedia.com/help/wire...s.php#faq-ss-1

Is wireless Broadband secure?
Yes, Virgin Media Wireless Broadband uses the latest wireless encryption technology called WPA-PSK. Your wireless router is pre-configured with WPA-PSK as a default.

In addition you seem to be confused about why speeds drop from 'N' to 'G' if a router is set to WEP. However Virgin do explain what you need for best 'N' speeds:

http://www.virginmedia.com/help/wire...outer-faqs.php

Getting the most from wireless ‘N’ technology…

Important things to remember to get the most from Wireless ‘N’ technology:
Full wireless ‘N’ performance can only be achieved on computers/devices that use the latest WPA2 wireless security encryption (such as our wireless ‘N’ USB adaptor). If your computer/device is only capable of using WEP or WPA wireless security encryption, the performance of these devices will be impacted

When setting up your wireless router, we recommend you select the ‘Enable WPA/WPA2 Wireless Security (enhanced)’ security encryption option (this is sometimes referred to as ‘Dual-Mode’ or ‘Mixed-Mode’) This will ensure maximum performance with WPA2 devices, whilst providing compatibility with older WPA only wireless devices

webcrawler2050 30-10-2009 09:09

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It's not about attacking. Mearly stating our opinions.

Actually depression doesn't kill, I suffered depression. I lost everything g, £250k partner home etc. Depression kills, if your weak enough to let it control you.

I think you have waaaayyy too much time on your hands and it's annoying that, you don't even have the technical knowhow to make all that verbal drool, right. I would just take it down and move on.

cllp1975 30-10-2009 09:12

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ADSL Routers are a different thing. Anyway, all the routers I've received (4 in total) for the cable service were set to WEP. I am happy to clarify the point on my blog.

I totally disagree with the "mixed mode" thing anyway, as many devices will pick WPA OVER WPA2 if there's a choice, and then you don't get the speed.

Same goes for Auto Negotiation with a wired connection. A lot of devices don't switch intelligently.

And my concern is that many of the fitters and tech support guys don't get trained on this self-same information, and spend time looking for things that aren't there instead of Occam's Razor....

Raistlin 30-10-2009 09:16

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Now, you see, the thing is.....I've got this headache right? It's mostly been caused by the fact that despite having reached the ripe ol' age of 32 I still don't appear to have learned that a) I should eat plenty before I go out for a few drinkies, and b) I should stick to just a 'few' drinkies, and learn when to stop.

I say mostly because there's also a little bit of it that's caused by having to constantly remind people that they should be discussing the topic at hand and not continually trying to score points by taking lumps out of each other.

So.....whilst this little off-topic diversion into the relative viewpoints of depression has been just lovely, I fear that I must ask you all to stick to the topic and stop bickering.

BenMcr 30-10-2009 09:20

Re: The Truth About 50meg Broadband
 
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Originally Posted by cllp1975 (Post 34900460)
ADSL Routers are a different thing

Only in so much as they have a modem in them. Apart from that they work exactly the same

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I totally disagree with the "mixed mode" thing anyway, as many devices will pick WPA OVER WPA2 if there's a choice, and then you don't get the speed.
Again, not in my experience. I have a laptop with an 'N' adapter built in - it will go for WPA2-AES everytime in a Mixed-mode setting.

The reason Mixed-mode is recommended is precisely to stop the issue of older equipment not being able to connect.

Once Virgin are reasonably sure that all devices support WPA2 then the advice will no doubt change

Pierre 30-10-2009 10:41

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Crap blog and crap site.

None of the issues he's moaning about are major issues, alot are down to his own ignorance and some of the "facts" he posts are just pure wrong.

I wouldn't hold out on the Book and magazine deal.

I thought blogs were supposed to be interesting, insightful, sometimes amusing?

This is none of those things.

xocemp 30-10-2009 11:47

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Like The Murphy's, I'm Not Bitter

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martyh 30-10-2009 12:03

Re: The Truth About 50meg Broadband
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34900464)
Only in so much as they have a modem in them. Apart from that they work exactly the same

Again, not in my experience. I have a laptop with an 'N' adapter built in - it will go for WPA2-AES everytime in a Mixed-mode setting.

The reason Mixed-mode is recommended is precisely to stop the issue of older equipment not being able to connect.

Once Virgin are reasonably sure that all devices support WPA2 then the advice will no doubt change

agree with you there BenMcr, i have no problems with connecting 'g' and 'n' machines at the same time it is a function of most wireless 'n' routers ,just choose the correct config and away you go ,

and by the way (directed to the OP)the VM site is awash with help and advice on setting up your equipment

I also think that the OP should be tad carefull with his blog because alot of his "facts" are plain wrong and the post is very deflamitary towards VM and when you put this together with the incorrect facts then VM could have a case to sue

cllp1975 30-10-2009 12:37

Re: The Truth About 50meg Broadband
 
Please feel free to correct me and I will gladly update the site. However, I don't think any of my facts are wrong per say - perhaps incomplete in places.

And Virgin would be better off engaging with me than sueing me. I could quite happily sue them on a number of factors, but I'd much rather create an open dialogue.


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