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So, you support their right to vote, yet don't support when it affects you personally? How does that work then? How do you expect the exercising of that right, not to affect anyone? Surely that is the point of taking the action in the first place?

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I didn't say their action shouldn't affect anyone. But why the hell should I have to suffer and be inconvenienced by an argument which is not mine? A ban on overtime, work-to-rule, those are just some of the things they could do which won't cause trouble for Joe Public.

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Aah, I see.....Just because you can't do it, no one should? What a shame they didn't think of that a hundred years ago. :rolleyes: No one is stopping you from taking industrial action, except the lethargy of you and your colleagues, of course.

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Couldn't agree more. Why should we suffer because they can't sort them selves out internally.

What about all the stuff they have lost of mine over the years and have never found it again, it must be somewhere!

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Words fail me, they really do. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Nothing stopping me except I can't screw the people of this country over in the process. That's how it works.

Of course if they are unhappy with their job they can do what everyone else not in lucrative public sector jobs has to do - find a new one.

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Because they tried to sort themselves out internally, but the management refused to compromise, what else do you think they should have done?

Surely, you can see that if the strike is successful, yo are not going to lose as much as you did before. The reasons for the strike, is the cause of you losing things in the post; antiquated working practices and poorly trained, paid and motivated staff are just a couple of reasons.

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As there no jobs (and this is one of the main points of the action) what do you really expect them do instead? Another one who can't see, if they all resign, who else will do the job? More poorly trained, paid and motivated staff instead? Except that their conditions will be even worse and so will the service. What's that about paying peanuts....?

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You seem to be of the opinion that we're saying they don't have reason to be unhappy.

No-one is saying that.

But am I to have sympathy for or even support those whose action is inconveniencing me? Especially when nothing I can do can change their situation? Especially when someone like Amazon seems to have a similar view as myself and has caused them to lose money by having a major contract dropped?

I hope more companies follow suit like Amazon. Run the RM in to the ground and get other companies to offer a delivery service. Any laid off workers could apply for the new positions, they'll have the experience.

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But Amazon's decision has nothing to do with the current proposed industrial actions. It is to do with cost effectiveness and lack of service. What do you expect these workers to do as an alternative to industrial action?

Do you really expect a privatised service to offer better pay and conditions?

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Got it in one, Diane. And for the second time I have nothing against industrial action.

...and a better service. Serveral companies competing for our custom, I see it like the supermarket pricing wars. They battle each other, the customer benefits.

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At the expense of staff and suppliers, potentially...

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You forgot to add the bit about the Tories - they're always to blame for everything remember... :D

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And workers.

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:confused:

That is non-sequitor. Just because it is a privatised service does not automatically mean it will be better one.

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Staff = workers?

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I don't remember hearing about Tesco laying people off due to their price cuts but that's a different story.

And quite different to this one.

If the RM think they'll get public support (and they always wheel out a union rep who spouts off claiming "the public are behind us") they'll be waiting a long time for it.