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Kymmy 14-04-2009 15:12

Re: 5Ghz Networks
 
What are the ERP limits for the band? Also is there any type approval (just that there normally is on UK stuff :( )

Uncle Peter 14-04-2009 15:35

Re: 5Ghz Networks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34775319)
What are the ERP limits for the band? Also is there any type approval (just that there normally is on UK stuff :( )

Mean eirp (that mythical measurement):

Band A: 5150-5350MHz: 200mw

Band B: 5470-5725MHz: 1w

Band C: 5725-5850MHz: 4w

popper 15-04-2009 00:07

Re: 5Ghz Networks
 
hmm anyone know about these, really odd but seems like a good idea, a wireless AP in a tube

the Atheros AR2313 SOC, MIPS 4KC, 180MHz
isnt so great/good but still perhaps useable for low speed/users point to point links.

its got a Linux SDK so good for the open source 3rd party firmwares too, anyone tryed it!

http://www.wifi-stock.com/details/bullet_2hp.html
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/04/36.jpg

Uncle Peter 15-04-2009 01:37

Re: 5Ghz Networks
 
Fancy running some tropo(scatter) on 5GHz?

http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sit...m/TRC-170.html

150miles at 4Mbps is not unheard of

"Power: High" (it's actually 2KW :D)

popper 15-04-2009 03:46

Re: 5Ghz Networks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bennylaball (Post 34775116)
I am looking for a decent 802.11a access point/client unit but not one with b/g support as it is going to be for a backhaul on my network, i have setup plenty of 2.4Ghz networks but i need some extra range on this one as it will be over 10 miles unless someone can point me in a better direction.

looking a little more, i found some senao/EnGenius that have a REALLY good name in the Open Source community,Due OC to their far higher generic power output :angel:(keeping in mind UP's max UK power warning above OC) and RX sensitivity -95dBm or better....! in the Band A internal kit at least, cant say about these Band B externals, but it seems better than most looking at a few specs,
but i cant seem to find a Uk supplyer for you ,but didnt try to hard...:sleep:

http://www.engeniustech.com/datacom/...ls.aspx?id=264

http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.a...OR-7550&eq=&Tp=
600mW on 802.11b/g & 150mW on 802.11a

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/04/34.jpg
Item Code EOR-7550
Price $159.00 per EACH
Weight8.00 LB
ManufacturersEnGenius
ModelEOR-7550
CategoriesEnGenius

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oh you could aways go and get a few of these http://www.wifi-stock.com/details/ubiquity_rs.html RouterStation motherboards 44.66€ and populate with your choice of (upto3) miniPCi radio's

http://wiki.ubnt.com/wiki/index.php/RouterStation
"
RouterStation Software Specs

RouterStation ships with OpenWRT Kamikaze. Ubiquiti only provides limited support for the software, but full support for the hardware.

All documentation for the use of OpenWRT can be found at the following website:
http://downloads.openwrt.org/kamikaze/docs/openwrt.html
Please look forward to a quick setup guide for a single radio setup.
"

its odd though , given the Pro nature of these boards and supplyers, they DONT seem to carry 11n miniPCI radio's or even list them, but we know they exist as they are in a LOT of laptops today... and senao/EnGenius make one or two...

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a few of these could be fun to play with at 36.96€ with some high gain directionals pluged into them
http://www.wifi-stock.com/details/wispstation5.html

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/04/35.jpg
Specifications
Operation mode AP, Client, Bridge, WDS
Frequence 5.20-5.825GHz
DHCP Yes
Transmission speed 1, 2, 6, 11, 24 ,36, 48, 54 Mbps
Standards 802.11a
Chipset Atheros™ AR5213
Output for an external antenna 1 x U-FL male
TX Power regulation yes
Max.output power 22dBm
Sensitivity -96dBm
Modulation OFDM, DBPSK, DQPSK, CCK
Encryption WEP 64, WEP 128, WPA, WPA2
Comformity FCC, CE
Default IP 192.168.1.20
Default name ubnt
Default password ubnt
Power supply 12 - 18V
Operational temperature -20 - 60°C
Dimension 10,5 x 8 cm
Weight 0.060
Interface LAN, WiFI

popper 23-04-2009 13:12

Re: 5Ghz Networks
 
what did you end up going for benny?

Kymmy 23-04-2009 14:27

Re: 5Ghz Networks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 34775771)
Fancy running some tropo(scatter) on 5GHz?

http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sit...m/TRC-170.html

150miles at 4Mbps is not unheard of

"Power: High" (it's actually 2KW :D)

Next you'll be using it for moon bounce ;) :D

popper 23-04-2009 15:30

Re: 5Ghz Networks
 
perhaps easyer to use a laser and that old mirror the US guys put up there, the one some guy on a bicycle rides up a hill to a ground based laser every day and fires it at that moon mirror and he's proved that the moons moving away from the earth (very moonbase Alpha,1999) :erm: very slowly apparently...

i wonder IF you Might get somewere with a bigger version of this :cool:
http://www.dailywireless.org/2009/04...ess-under-10k/

"free space optical communications..."


"
1Gbps Wireless - Under $10K


http://www.lightpointe.com/images/products/100_lg2.jpgLightPointe says their new laser optics product line delivers Gbps speed for under $10,000. The FlightLite G combines low cost-per-bit transport, high transmission security, and SNMP management capabilities hin a compact, easy to install, and fully outdoor-rated unit, says the company.
"

but i'v gone a little OT with that...ROTFL

Uncle Peter 23-04-2009 16:39

Re: 5Ghz Networks
 
Moonbounce is great if nobody answers, with the delay you can always have a convo with yourself ;) Trying to run data over EME would be interesting. Some of the big guns in the US are running 36ft dishes on 70cms.

You can get 99% reliability over 1200KM with forward ionoscatter on 50MHz. That would be 40-50KW into a 500ft rhombic (18-20dbd). I wonder if I can get a NOV for 40KW :D

popper 23-04-2009 17:47

Re: 5Ghz Networks
 
http://sutherland.blogs.com/w6po/2004/04/ham_tv_.html

wow, thats some arial ;)
http://www.m2inc.com/users/emehist/eme.html
EME in the early days

Uncle Peter 23-04-2009 18:05

Re: 5Ghz Networks
 
Impressive for the day indeed. In more recent times, Dave W5UN is the top man.

http://www.w5un.net/EME%20Array.JPG

The stuff you can do when you have a ranch.


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