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Russ	07-03-2009 21:46

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34747101)

i use asian as a collective term, hindus ,muslim chinese all live in Asia

What about British Hindus and Muslims? I'm guessing you didn't realise that Hindu and Islam are religions, whereas Asia and China are places?

xpod	07-03-2009 21:48

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Certainly the Sun Star and Mirror have not picked up on it yet

It`s in todays Sun.;)

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i use asian as a collective term, hindus ,muslim chinese all live in Asia

Not all of them they dont,there are a couple here in London for starters ;-)

frogstamper

07-03-2009 21:53

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As distasteful as this story is I think that Chris has a point in that this is a fee paying independent all girls school, so there isn't a lot the local authorities can do.
On the other hand if, as I'm sure the Express Sun or DM would love to print, this was a state school these parents wouldn't have a leg to stand on. But unfortunately there has been an explosion of state paid faith schools in recent years encouraged by this government, so in my opinion segregation will only become worse.

zing_deleted

07-03-2009 21:53

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34747104)

But they're not asking the rest of us to bend for them. This wasn't a State school - they have taken their girls off to a private school. They have been prepared to go away and pay in order to get the single-sex environment they want for their daughters.

We don't know whether the protests began 14 months ago, or in September when new children arrived at the school, or at some point in between when boys started to attend the gym club. But in any case, the length of time it has taken for these complaints to come to a head and reach the Press isn't really relevant. The parents have paid for a service - namely, a single-sex environment - and they're not getting it.

It seems that it has been going on quietly for some time as the Head has tried to broker a compromise, by saying the gym club could start at 6.30pm once all school activities have finished. However it's the gym club that has rejected this option as they say it would mean too late a finish time for their youngest members.

you know I do not just mean here Chris its accumulative. A little bit here a little bit there all adds up to the average Brit getting screwed

Chris

07-03-2009 21:55

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Yes, that might be the case sometimes, but what worries me on that score is the extent to which that is really happening. There are so many of these headlines in the Express and the Mail at the moment, it's really starting to look like someone's peddling an agenda whereby Muslims are made to look as if they are always trying to screw 'us' over. I really don't think that's the case here.

martyh

07-03-2009 22:05

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okay i'll spell it out ... Asian as in "the Asian community" i wouldn't want to single out any one particular religion but it does appear that Asian people are at center of this discusion we don't know that all of them are practicing muslims If i was certain that they were all muslims then i would say "the muslim community"

zing_deleted

07-03-2009 22:06

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34747118)

I do agree but my issues run quite deep and go back to the london bombers so my view is tainted somewhat. I am not racist and agree with freedom of religion but I feel its to late for this country its been to soft on immigration and now there is nothing we can do about it.

Does not anyone else find it quite bazaar that we are told to be tolerant and all the equality stuff while the Muslims treat their women so poorly ;)

Chris

07-03-2009 22:11

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34747126)

Well the news item reports the Headteacher as saying it is due to the number of muslim families now in the school. Isn't that good enough for you?

Russ	07-03-2009 22:11

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34747127)

Does not anyone else find it quite bazaar that we are told to be tolerant and all the equality stuff while the Muslims treat their women so poorly ;)

Not wanting to go too deep here as it will go off-topic but it tends to be fundamentalist Islam that treats women poorly. That mixed in with a lot of Asian cultures treat women as second class citizens too. So I wouldn't say it's just due to the religion. It's more a cultural thing, not that I'm trying to justify it.

zing_deleted

07-03-2009 22:20

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Our culture is whats being diluted and this is our country,

martyh

07-03-2009 22:28

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34747130)

Well the news item reports the Headteacher as saying it is due to the number of muslim families now in the school. Isn't that good enough for you?

not really no, the head teacher cannot say how many practising muslims are involved as he simply cannot know just because it is a faith school does not mean that all pupils and parents are practising muslims,(they probably are but we cannot be certain)anymore than my son is a practising catholic despite going to a catholic primary school,they simply belong to same community which i class as Asian
as RUSSB pointed out it appears to be more of a cultural difference than a religious one

correction..i don't actualy think it is a faith school just a private girls school

Chris

07-03-2009 22:36

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34747144)

not really no the head teacher cannot say how many practising muslims are involved as he simply cannot know just because it is a faith school does not mean that all pupils and parents are practising muslims,anymore than my son is a practising catholic despite going to a catholic primary school
as RUSSB pointed out it appears to more of a cultural difference than a religious one

I'm sorry ... either you haven't bothered to read the article in question, or you have read it and totally failed to take any of it in.

The school is not a religious school. It is simply a private school for girls. The headteacher is a she, not a he. Her name is Judy Harris. She has - it is reported - told the gym club that there are an increased number of Muslim children at school this year, and it is their families that are complaining. If she is receiving complaints, then she must know how many complaints she is receiving. Even if there were no complaints about anything, you would expect her to have some idea of the religious leanings of the families sending children to the school, especially non-Christian families who are liable to want to withdraw their children from any Christian assemblies that may be planned.

nomadking

07-03-2009 23:10

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1) It is an independent school, not a private school.
2) It is still Tax payer funded.
3) The meetings were after school hours, so were a function of a public building NOT of a school.

rogerdraig

07-03-2009 23:15

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posted that one in wrong box entirely think this wine was stronger than i thought

hic

punky

07-03-2009 23:20

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Also, you have to wonder what life these Muslim girls have. If these parents are concerned they may pass near to boys after school, then they are obviously chaffeured in an out and must lead a horribly isolated life. Breeding the next subjugated female generation.

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