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sherer 25-02-2009 14:54
Re: Lord Ahmed jailed
 
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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34740173)
It happened in the UK - therefore it was a MOBILE phone ;)

Awesome - within 10 minutes of the story breaking there was a thread on Digital Spy saying he wouldn't have had the same sentence had he been white but the mods took it down :D

But seriously, he should have known better. The Sky website has a story of a paramedic who was photographed texting while he was driving his vehicle and even had a patient in the back at the time.
yes I got annoyed about seeing a cellphone mentioned too ;) Not sure where Andy is from though so that could explain things.

It seems the police report has stated the texting didn't impact the crash but i'm not sure if that is true, even if it happened before the crash site he was obviously having a text conversation and so would have been waiting for a reply etc and so would have been distracted by that.

There was another one a few weeks back where a woman was texting and managed to get up to speeds of 70 mph and killed a woman who was changing a tyre of a parked car. The woman who killed her didn't think texting while driving was a problem but if you can get the car up to 70 and not notice then surely you aren't paying any attention.

If people got longer sentences for these then maybe drivers would be more aware of their surroundings

ginge51 12-03-2009 16:31
Jailed Peer Ahmed Freed Early From Prison
 
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He was imprisoned for sending and received text messages while driving on a motorway minutes before he was involved in a fatal crash.

Lord Ahmed was released early by the Court of Appeal.

The 51-year, who was jailed at Sheffield Crown Court on February 25 after admitting dangerous driving, was not present for the ruling by three judges in London.

Lord Ahmed was involved in an accident which left a man dead on the M1 near Rotherham, South Yorkshire, on Christmas Day 2007.

The sentencing judge, Mr Justice Wilkie, made it clear his text messaging had finished two minutes before the accident took place and was not connected.

Lord Ahmed has served 16 days in prison and was due to be released on March 20.

Allowing Lord Ahmed's sentence appeal, Lady Justice Hallett said the imposition of a prison sentence in his case had been justified.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Lab...15240245?f=rss

This is an absolute disgrace.
This idiot killed somebody.
He gets "2 WEEKS IN PRISON" for "KILLING" somebody?
What a disgrace this is.
Just because he is in a position of power in government, he gets let off?
I hope something is said about this.
Just plain wrong in my opinion.

Damien 12-03-2009 16:40
Re: Jailed Peer Ahmed Freed Early From Prison
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginge51 (Post 34751049)
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Lab...15240245?f=rss

This is an absolute disgrace.
This idiot killed somebody.
He gets "2 WEEKS IN PRISON" for "KILLING" somebody?
What a disgrace this is.
Just because he is in a position of power in government, he gets let off?
I hope something is said about this.
Just plain wrong in my opinion.
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The sentencing judge, Mr Justice Wilkie, made it clear his text messaging had finished two minutes before the accident took place and was not connected.
He went to Jail for Text Messaging and not the accident.

ginge51 12-03-2009 16:42
Re: Jailed Peer Ahmed Freed Early From Prison
 
So he "murders" somebody, and that's ok?

Damien 12-03-2009 16:56
Re: Jailed Peer Ahmed Freed Early From Prison
 
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Originally Posted by ginge51 (Post 34751055)
So he "murders" somebody, and that's ok?
He didn't murder anyone, he was involved in a accident. :rolleyes:

Stuart 12-03-2009 16:57
Re: Lord Ahmed jailed
 
Thread merged with pre-existing thread on same subject

lucy7 12-03-2009 17:04
Re: Lord Ahmed jailed
 
[Admin Edit:-Do not question a moderator action in public like this again. Such questions should be sent via private message].

Stuart 12-03-2009 17:07
Re: Jailed Peer Ahmed Freed Early From Prison
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginge51 (Post 34751055)
So he "murders" somebody, and that's ok?
Sorry. but according to the BBC article in the orginal thread (which I have merged), the victim had crashed into the central reservation and had nearly been hit by two other motorists. I am not excusing Lord Ahmed's driving (far from it), but it was an accident that was caused by bad driving.

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Originally Posted by lucy7 (Post 34751069)
[Admin Edit]
We had one thread on his jailing already. His release is a continuation of that, so I don't see the point in two threads covering essentially the same subject.

etccarmageddon 12-03-2009 17:13
Re: Lord Ahmed jailed
 
I dont know what the answer is here. I can't see prison making much of a difference and the bloke probably has loads of money so a fine wouldn't affect him.

Wouldn't community service have been a better use of his time?

Damien 12-03-2009 17:15
Re: Lord Ahmed jailed
 
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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon (Post 34751077)
I dont know what the answer is here. I can't see prison making much of a difference and the bloke probably has loads of money so a fine wouldn't affect him.

Wouldn't community service have been a better use of his time?
Most probably. As would be banned from driving for a while and requiring a new test when the ban is lifted. (I take that the latter did happen?)

Osem 12-03-2009 17:20
Re: Lord Ahmed jailed
 
Frankly, I'm surprised his stay at Her Majesty's Pleasure lasted as long as it did.......... :mad:

bob_a_builder 12-03-2009 19:07
Re: Lord Ahmed jailed
 
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Allowing Lord Ahmed's sentence appeal, Lady Justice Hallett said that in the court's view, the sentencing judge had had "no option but to impose a custodial sentence".
Lord Ahmed's use of the mobile phone, in the dark on a motorway, had "put people's lives at risk and for no good reason".
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But because of the "exceptional" personal mitigation in his case, Lady Justice Hallett said the court was able to take the step of suspending the sentence for 12 months.
Lord Ahmed's barrister, Jeremy Baker QC, had argued the jail sentence could "irreparably and permanently" damage Lord Ahmed's ability to carry out community work in the future.
Proof indeed that there is one law for them and one for the rest of us

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Most probably. As would be banned from driving for a while and requiring a new test when the ban is lifted. (I take that the latter did happen?)
He was also banned from driving for a year and ordered to pay £500 prosecution costs.

Or will we hear that that has been quashed too

Arthurgray50@blu 12-03-2009 19:15
Re: Lord Ahmed jailed
 
This is why there is one law for Joe Bloggs and another the posh, who probabely put money into politcial parties, it stinks, and smells terrible.

zing_deleted 12-03-2009 19:16
Re: Lord Ahmed jailed
 
he was done for dangerous driving not causing death by dangerous driving so I think the sentence is ok

papa smurf 12-03-2009 20:07
Re: Lord Ahmed jailed
 
i don't think he should have been imprisoned in the first place .


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