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zing_deleted 20-01-2009 15:19
Re: Vista Ultimate & Memory questions
 
Dude listen to me there are no Quad channel boards other than the SKulltrail and I am not 100% sure on that. They label it Quad channel but all it really means is 4 matched sticks.
DDRIII will run Tri channel on x58 boards and thats it

idi banashapan 20-01-2009 23:07
Re: Vista Ultimate & Memory questions
 
dude, seriously, it doesn't bother me... I'll just buy new RAM.... I'm not disputing what you are saying, I just really don't care. The RAM works for me just fine. I wanted 8Gb in matching 4s and these were available, so I bought them... later this year, I will likely have newer, better faster RAM... it really doesn't matter!!!

zing_deleted 20-01-2009 23:12
Re: Vista Ultimate & Memory questions
 
Just informing you mate thats all

Mr_love_monkey 22-01-2009 23:48
Re: Vista Ultimate & Memory questions
 
i installed Vista 64bit ultimate with 12gb of ram no problem

idi banashapan 22-01-2009 23:52
Re: Vista Ultimate & Memory questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34720410)
i installed Vista 64bit ultimate with 12gb of ram no problem
damn you!!! lol!!! ;)

damien c 23-01-2009 00:14
Re: Vista Ultimate & Memory questions
 
i install vista ultimate 64bit with 4gb no probs

Joxer 23-01-2009 00:42
Re: Vista Ultimate & Memory questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHiLL (Post 34718451)
It's a problem with 32-bit operating systems. Windows does actually see all 4GB of physical memory, but 32-bit operating systems can only address 4GB of RAM, which includes physical, graphical and maybe page file.

An example, is I have 4GB of RAM, and 768MB on my graphics card. So Windows XP displays that I only have 2.25GB of physical RAM.

To sort the problem and make full use of ALL you RAM, you'd need a 64-bit operating system.
There are 32bit Linux kernels that can access 64GB of ram, albeit not quite all of it as some is used for address mapping (though you lose some with 4GB as well).

CHiLL 23-01-2009 11:05
Re: Vista Ultimate & Memory questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joxer (Post 34720434)
There are 32bit Linux kernels that can access 64GB of ram, albeit not quite all of it as some is used for address mapping (though you lose some with 4GB as well).
Oh, so it is just 32-bit Microsoft Operating system then?

alferret 25-01-2009 10:09
Re: Vista Ultimate & Memory questions
 
Well I tried 64bit and although it showed the full 4gb and used it, it wasnt very stable (dont know why) So I have gone back to Vista 32bit and will wait patiently for W7.


EDIT**

Just found this on the incredibly slow ASUS site.

http://support.asus.com/faq/faq.aspx...Language=en-us

Quote:
If you installed total 4GB memory, the system will detect less than 4GB of total memory because of address space allocation for other critical functions, such as:

- System BIOS (including motherboard, add-on cards, etc..)
- Motherboards resources
- Memory mapped I/O
- configuration for AGP/PCI-Ex/PCI
- Other memory allocations for PCI devices

Different onboard devices and different add-on cards (devices) will result of different total memory size.
e.g. more PCI cards installed will require more memory resources, resulting of less memory free for other uses.

On a SLI system, since PCI-Ex graphic cards will occupy around 256MB, another 256MB will be occupied after you install a 2nd PCI-Ex graphic card. Hence, 2.75GB memory left only if two SLI cards installed on A8N-SLI Premium while 3.0GB memory left with one graphic card without other add-on devices.

This limitation applies to most chipsets & Microsoft Windows 32-bit version operating systems.

If you install Windows 32-bit version operating system, we recommend that you install less than 3GB of total memory. If more than 3GB memory is required for your system, then below two conditions must be met:
1. The memory controller which supports memory swap functionality is used. Chipsets later than Intel 975X, 955X, Nvidia NF4 SLI Intel Edition, Nvidia NF4 SLI X16, and AMD K8 CPU architecture support memory swap function.
2. Windows 64-bit OS which can address more than 4GB memory.
So it seems that my 2 & a half year chipset is by and large underspec to see the correct amount of memory when the BIOS is remapped or not.

idi banashapan 25-01-2009 13:37
Re: Vista Ultimate & Memory questions
 
the stability might be down the the voltages set in the BIOS. if you up them a bit, you'll probably see some more stability, though obviously, a 32bit OS will still only be able to map 4Gb max across all allocations. the fact you cannot see the full 4Gb memory on 32bit is not the fault of your board, it is the fact you are using 32bit. using 64bit will show the lot as it can allocate more memory.

alferret 25-01-2009 17:07
Re: Vista Ultimate & Memory questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender (Post 34721912)
the stability might be down the the voltages set in the BIOS. if you up them a bit, you'll probably see some more stability, though obviously, a 32bit OS will still only be able to map 4Gb max across all allocations. the fact you cannot see the full 4Gb memory on 32bit is not the fault of your board, it is the fact you are using 32bit. using 64bit will show the lot as it can allocate more memory.
Upped the mem from 1.9V to 2.0V and ran the CPU @ 1.4v with no difference to how the machine\OS behaved and this was at stock speed's.

There are others with the same problem posting on the P5B forum section on ASUS. No one has posted a fix or an as to why this is happening as regards the 32bit situation.

As 32bit can only address a max of 4gb if you take into account a 512mb GC and allow an extra overhead of 100mb by my reckoning Windows should show around 3.3-3.4gb. RE my first post, 4gb=2gb or 3gb=3gb. Anyways its something thats gonna have to wait for a new mobo, an that wont be till W7 shows its retail face.

Thanks for the input tho :)


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