Originally Posted by techtrouble (Post 34699239)

the company i work for made me get a disclosure certificate from disclosure scotland!
I dont even deal with customers bank details just their personal details!

Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman (Post 34699331)

Sorry rogermevans do you work for Virgin Media?

all the companies i have mentioned previously (apart form Virgin) conduct these checks as well as gain references from previous employers. If the checks are not (to quote) "worth the paper they are written on" then why are they used by police recruitment candidates, local councils and all the big companies out there.

As far as employing somebody at a nursary you would have to CRB them and gain satisfactory references from their previous employer?!

As far as it being easy to catch those selling on DD details I think you are wrong.We have all seen the stuff on TV where this happens and it is happening today. Should we not be reducing the risk rather than act after the horse has bolted?

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34699348)

To be fair at one time there was a section on the form about one's financial and credit standing along side the criminal section of the form.

Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman (Post 34699354)

foreverwar

This would not not include people with spent convictions. When its spent its spent! these people have the right to ork where they want to.

People who currently get checked would not be affected with an assault charge ten years ago.

Its about here and now. I could be working with people who got convicted for fraud last week!

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34699363)

Ahem

CRB

"If however you are being employed by a government body or large organisation then they are responsible for seeking this disclosure - after having informed you of their intent to do so - and may under law seek to gain an enhanced disclosure which will detail all offences, charges or arrests leveled against you spent or otherwise.

It is worth remembering as well that if you were cautioned by the police for whatever reason - should it even have been a caution received as a minor - this too will show up on your CRB disclosure."

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34699374)

Have you raised this with the HR department, and if so, what was their response.

You started this thread off with the statement
"Dont quite know how to put this but I am aware of people who are working within direct sales at Virgin Media (who visit customers in their own homes and have access to bank details etc) who have Criminal Records for fraud, theft and violence."

You have not qualified this statement, because if they are spent, what is the relevance? If they are not spent, ask VM what their policy is, and if you are not happy, you have a number of options.

Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman (Post 34699378)

They are not spent - they are unspent, dont want to speak to HR.

Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman (Post 34699378)

They are not spent - they are unspent, dont want to speak to HR.

Originally Posted by webcrawler2050 (Post 34699395)

Either way dude, this is a petty and down right frustrating topic, if these people have made such a choice by where they face a custodial sentance or something else, community pay back etc and they have "done their time" then, these people are entitled to put their life back together and start a fresh, most people deserve that chance, unless you have done something stupid or down right foolish.

Honesty is the best policy.

Correct and enhanced check would show this but it's a bit over the top isn't it, just a crummy £15 - £20k a year "sales" job. Ill give you that, if it was something like "head of customer services" etc etc then yes, it is needed but something as simple as a sales job, what aload of old tosh.

Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman (Post 34699272)

VM direct sales staff have access to bank/credit card details, are in a customers home and potentially around kids etc.

The question is.........should these salespeople be checked?

I personally think the answer is yes.

I have never had a criminal conviction for anything - why should i be working alongside people who have convictions?

It is about protecting customers and the vulnerable.

Just to let you guys know i am going to resign and inform the press if Virgin do not address this.

This forum has allowed me to air my views but if a company is not willing to look after its customers interests do i really want to work there anyway. I will go and work in utilities (gas and electric) at least there i will be able to hold my head up high and say to customers "I have been background checked" to give them confidence in who I really am!