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Ah, who decides these criteria though. Some you list are defined but
"dangerous criminals with mental health problems"?

If you were in power then anyone opposing you is obviously a criminal and must by definition be mentally unbalanced.

Also what of miscarriages of justice. Once someone is dead it is far harder to say, oops, sorry we got that one wrong. I am very much firmly of the opinion that it's better that guilty go free than the innocent are punished.
Death penalty also does not give the chance for the person to change and become a contributing member of society.

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Where it is shown and can be seen that a person murders with total intent and knowing what they are doing i support the death penalty and in those circumstances a miscarriage of justice is highly unlikely. But thats off topic and getting back on topic no one no matter what there ailment has a duty to die and to even talk about it in that way is wrong and shouldn't ever be considered.

I find it mildly amusing this comes from someone that is wealthy and therefore is exempt from her own criteria i wonder how all those pensioners that don't have her wealth feel about this i suspect there isn't a lot of support for this.

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Hmm must have missed that bit when I said I agreed with you either that of you added it later?

Either way I certainly don't agree with that sentence, even in the middle ages we tried not to execute the mentally ill and tbh I don't want the likes of Ian Brady being given the option, he wants to die now, why oblige him? Keep the sicko alive and make his life a misery I say, punish them properly and let them go to hell when their time is up.

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Oh I dunno, once they are in the ground I'm sure they'd work quite well as fertilizer.

Anyway there are some people who will never be contribute to society again. Has Ian Brady contributed anything since he was locked up? Aside from every so often popping up for air to complain how poorly he's treated and to give false hope to the family of his unfound victims.

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People like ian brady are perfect adverts for the re-introduction of the death penalty and sadly we have a few of them.

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Dr Nitschke said of the council's decision to cancel the venue: "I give workshops in other countries and I have never had anything like this happen before. It is very disappointing."

I am actually quite shocked by that, considering what he is peddling

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...urnemouth.html

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The right to die/duty to die debate still rages, I fully agree with the chief and have alluded to the same myself, it's why we have to be oh so careful with this and see the wider ramifications.

“From a policing perspective we need to be very careful on this to make sure it does not become a way of getting rid of a burden.

Or a way of people getting their grubby mits on inheritances early

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ice-chief.html

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although i don't agree with her choice of words she does bring to the forefront an issue that is always on peoples minds ,and i think she is a brave woman to do so.We in britain are so sqeamish about disussing subjects like this ,whats wrong with talking about this subject after all most of us have said things like "if ever i get to that state i want someone to put me me down " or "i don't want to be left in a nursing home drooling in the corner "
my own personal feelings are once i stop being a productive member of society with dementia or any other degenerate illness then finish me off no problem .I watched my Grandad die over 5yrs with parkinsons disease there's no way my kids are watching me go through that or similar

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I remember an old black and white film set in the far north of Canada where the old mother of the family was no longer able to chew the seal blubber or skin and thereby contribute to the well being of the group. Everyone else in the igloo looked at her and she looked back at them and late that night she walked out into the blizzard and sat down waiting for the polar bear that eventually came along to club her to the ground and finish her off.


We dont have polar bears where I live.

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Kant will have something to say about that. Ive watched this movie recently that tackled on bioethics. yea this is kinda sensitive.

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then make arrangements to do so its not hard

BUT any law that legalises this will lead to mass ( i am not joking on that ) culling of the ill disabled and old

once the precedent is set even with safe gaurds such as for example the so called safe guards put in for abortion of 2 dr's agreeing the womans life would be in danger etc they will slowly slip as that has to now them wanting a nurse to authorize it and its basically abortion on demand with no thought of whether it is actually in their interest

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We're on the slippery slope

Families who help terminally-ill loved ones kill themselves will not be prosecuted unless police can prove that they stood to gain from the death, landmark guidelines are expected to say next week.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...icide-law.html

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It's about bloody time.
Humane treatment for humans.

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The only thing that worries me is that any husband or wife assisting their partner to die will, in a lot of cases benefit, from their deaths financially which will still leave them open to charges.

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Or as Baroness Warnock put it, a way to get rid of a burden on the state or as the police chief said a fast way to a legacy. I doubt anyone could fail to have sympathy with people who help a loved one on their way for the right reasons however I don't trust our politicians in the future not to water this proposed legislation down.

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Yes I was thinking the same myself yesterday.