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LostintheNW 24-07-2008 10:05

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34607109)
So all those who have just left Virgin to go to any of those six over the BPI letters are in for a shock ;)

Not really as we don't have STM to worry about so can merrily download other things to our hearts content :) - although I haven't gone to one of those who are signing up for this :D

Vegeta 24-07-2008 10:21

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
Will they still know what you are downloading if you using SSL encrypted connections to newsgroups?

Kymmy 24-07-2008 10:26

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
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Originally Posted by Vegeta (Post 34607119)
Will they still know what you are downloading if you using SSL encrypted connections to newsgroups?

It's irrelavant to this topic which is about p2p and the BPI using ISP's to chase offendors sharing music.

So downloading on newsgroups is not on-topic

Horace 24-07-2008 10:36

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
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Originally Posted by Vegeta (Post 34607119)
Will they still know what you are downloading if you using SSL encrypted connections to newsgroups?

No.

Tarantella 24-07-2008 10:39

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
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"They have signed a memorandum of understanding which commits them to sending "informative letters" to customers whose accounts have been identified by the BPI as being used for filesharing."




Since when did VM start giving information to the BPI?

Maggy 24-07-2008 10:42

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
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Originally Posted by Tarantella (Post 34607142)
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"They have signed a memorandum of understanding which commits them to sending "informative letters" to customers whose accounts have been identified by the BPI as being used for filesharing."




Since when did VM start giving information to the BPI?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...egal-downloads

Tarantella 24-07-2008 10:58

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
Thanks Maggy.

And do you know when will VM sign an agreement with representatives of the American Film and Software industries, Microsoft and everyone else with a vested interest? :angel:

buckleb 24-07-2008 11:01

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
I thought that Virgin didn't actually give any information to the BPI, but just passed on the letters themselves without revealing the customer details?

Maggy 24-07-2008 11:07

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
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Originally Posted by Tarantella (Post 34607159)
Thanks Maggy.

And do you know when will VM sign an agreement with representatives of the American Film and Software industries, Microsoft and everyone else with a vested interest? :angel:

No idea!I personally don't have anyone on the inside at VM.;)

BenMcr 24-07-2008 12:17

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarantella (Post 34607159)
Thanks Maggy.

And do you know when will VM sign an agreement with representatives of the American Film and Software industries, Microsoft and everyone else with a vested interest? :angel:

Probably when threatened by government legislation instead if they don't (which is the main reason the six ISPs have done it)

Berealwith 24-07-2008 12:29

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
So its ok to sell, sell, sell bandwith get more customers upgrade 4 to 10, 10 to 20. and as what i would call a normal users (someone who has 10/20mb and just checks holiday sites and emails) dont need it, but we'll upgrade anyway,

This has fuel'd the downloaders, most of them had to leave thier pc on all night so with the upgrade they dont have to. the ISP's have created thier own bottleneck it has nothing to do with p2p. its the ISP's who gave the bandwith in the first place

All they want is somebody else they can use/blame other than themselves, a 3rd party and they have it now and it's been on the "BBC".

When will the ISP's have a "code of conduct" for the things that we need ie oversubscribing, UBR upgrades, and Hefty fines for mis-selling "Un-Limited.

And in the big picture "What is 20mb used for" ha ha i see the "20mb your all pirates" lol

Soon the "50mb SUPER PIRATE" will appear.....

BenMcr 24-07-2008 12:36

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
That seems a bit off topic for this thread ;)

Maggy 24-07-2008 12:57

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
Yes I believe my fellow moderator pointed out that the other VM and BPI filesharing thread got closed because people would not stick to the topic or behave well.

So lets keep to topic please
.:D

Kymmy 24-07-2008 13:05

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
For clarification.

The BPI whichever method they use gets the IP/DATE and TIME of the person who they have confirmed is file sharing (probably from the P2P networks). They then pass on this information to the ISP's, The ISP's without divulging the users details to the BPI send the user the letters that have already been linked to in this thread.

The only way the BPI will ever get information from the ISP's is via a court case in which they'd have to ask a judge to order an ISP to divulge the information.

Kymmy

BenMcr 24-07-2008 13:23

Re: Britain's six largest ISPs and BPI join forces to attack illegal filesharing
 
According to thinkbroadband.com http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3...agreement.html

The MPAA has also signed up the goverments 'Memorandum of Understanding' not just the BPI


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