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Osem 22-10-2008 23:14
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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34659400)
You know, thats quite a good post. When you think of the money we have spent trying to make rotten systems work, when theres a better alternative, it makes your blood boil. Nimrod springs to mind too, I wouldn`t mind 1% of that money in my bank.
Our history is littered with costly debacles sadly ....... :mad:

Escapee 23-10-2008 11:49
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34659406)
Our history is littered with costly debacles sadly ....... :mad:
True, and as someone who works in the defence industry I would make the following statement.

If the customer was intelligent, many of these costly debacles would not exist.

tweetypie/8 23-10-2008 12:03
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34567354)
Well yes another one from this glorious government that revels in sending our troops out all over the place but won't give them the kit to get the job done. Pretty soon basic equipment for the British soldier will be sticky tape, string and a blue peter maunal. Send some of these pampered little politicians out to the fun zones and then see how quickly kit goes up in priority bunch of gits.
youve nailed that one rizzy,fair play to you.:tu:

SMHarman 23-10-2008 17:29
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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 34659657)
True, and as someone who works in the defence industry I would make the following statement.

If the customer was intelligent, many of these costly debacles would not exist.
The customer being HMG who overrule those in military ranks who have the intelligence to make these decisions?

tosh mate 24-10-2008 00:38
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i have to say that the British armed forces are the best trainned but i do agree they lack the equipment they need and should not be in a lot of the battlefields they are

Escapee 25-10-2008 21:10
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Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34659916)
The customer being HMG who overrule those in military ranks who have the intelligence to make these decisions?
No, the decisions are usually being made by ex service people in civilian posts. The fact that they use ex service people (usually ex army) often makes matters worse, because they have no commercial awareness.

For example 2 scenarios.

A. A request is made for a larger kettle to make more cups of tea.

B. A request is made to upgrade the flow widget because of an incompatibility with it connecting reliably to the winky valve, resulting in a possible failure in service.

Scenario A is likely to be approved because any fool understands it, but scenario B is not understood by the people making the decisions. They may decide to seek guidance from one of their consultants or commonly referred to 'Subject Matter Expert'. They may be lucky and have one who understands what he is supposed to be an expert on, but the reality is that his report is too confusing for the non-technical decision makers so they just file the request.

Ex forces personel are not the best people to get involved in technical decision making, I should know I work with a lot of them.

Osem 31-03-2010 11:48
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The Ministry of Defence failed to get the best deal for taxpayers when buying a fleet of transport planes for the RAF, the spending watchdog has said.

The National Audit Office said the 14 Future Strategic Tanker Aircraft would be delivered more than five years late.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8593788.stm

Osem 04-03-2011 10:03
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12643966

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The Ministry of Defence has admitted it has been paying £22 for a light bulb worth 65p.

Defence Secretary Liam Fox described it as "inexcusable" and evidence of a waste of taxpayers' money by the previous Labour government.
It's so ridiculous that it must be true! :mad:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12538011

Kymmy 04-03-2011 10:36
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Last item is already being discussed in it's own thread

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...no-wonder.html

Osem 04-03-2011 10:38
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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35186584)
Last item is already being discussed in it's own thread

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...no-wonder.html
Yes, been having issues posting all morning - site very slow to respond, so that thread was launched whilst I was still posting mine.


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